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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:25 pm
by Xar
Just as a clarification, to make sure there are no misunderstandings re: the voting process.
As I said, you can vote three creation myths, listing them from most to least favored. When calculating votes, the creation myth you vote first is worth 1 full vote; the second one is worth 1/2 a vote; and the third one is worth 1/4 of a vote. This helps in building a list of winners while reducing the chance for a tie.
As an update, I already received three PMs for voting purposes!
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:31 pm
by Menolly
:::nodding:::
Sounds fair to me...
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:33 pm
by Xar
I updated the rules to address a loophole in the newbie protection rule whose existence I recently realized. From now on, if a deity who is enjoying newbie protection (the 4 turns in which he cannot be attacked) willingly attacks another deity (directly or indirectly, with his own power and/or the power bestowed by others), he or she forfeits the newbie protection, meaning that the attacked deity can retaliate even if the attacker ascended less than 4 turns before. This is to prevent situations in which a newly ascended deity is sent against an older deity, after being boosted with power from other deities, in order to harm the attacked deity while hiding behind the newbie protection rule.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:42 pm
by O-gon-cho
AllFather...
:::eyebrows rising:::
Is this new rule retroactive? Or, are the current ones under said protection exempt from it until their four turns are up, since they joined the game under different possibilities?
:::not that I would
think of taking part in any such devious plans:::

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:45 pm
by Astavyastataa Kadna
O-gon-cho wrote:AllFather...
:::eyebrows rising:::
Is this new rule retroactive? Or, are the current ones under said protection exempt from it until their four turns are up, since they joined the game under different possibilities?
I don't know why such a rule is needed!! I'd vote for the existing newbies being exempted!

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:45 pm
by Bhakti
Good thing I'm not the suspicious type, or I'd read a whole lot into that question, O!
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:46 pm
by O-gon-cho
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote:O-gon-cho wrote:AllFather...
:::eyebrows rising:::
Is this new rule retroactive? Or, are the current ones under said protection exempt from it until their four turns are up, since they joined the game under different possibilities?
I don't know why such a rule is needed!! I'd vote for the existing newbies being exempted!

*nod*
Fair is fair...
Bhakti wrote:Good thing I'm not the suspicious type, or I'd read a whole lot into that question, O!
Moi?
Nuh-uh. Not me...
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:57 pm
by Bhakti
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:00 pm
by Xar
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote:O-gon-cho wrote:AllFather...
:::eyebrows rising:::
Is this new rule retroactive? Or, are the current ones under said protection exempt from it until their four turns are up, since they joined the game under different possibilities?
I don't know why such a rule is needed!! I'd vote for the existing newbies being exempted!

Existing newbies are not exempted from the rule... IF they attack another deity from now on, they'll lose newbie protection. Attacks which happened this turn are allowed, since the rule was only published today; but from Turn 19 on, the rule is in effect for everyone.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:06 pm
by O-gon-cho
Xar wrote:
Existing newbies are not exempted from the rule... IF they attack another deity from now on, they'll lose newbie protection. Attacks which happened this turn are allowed, since the rule was only published today; but from Turn 19 on, the rule is in effect for everyone.
Ah...OK. As long as it doesn't affect Turn 19 (you did mean starting with next Turns submittals, Turn 20 on?). That just would not be fair
if anyone did take advantage of said loophole this past Turn submittal.
IMHO...of course.
:::sorry AllFather, it's that Freedom and Will aspect of me raising it's head again:::
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:17 pm
by Mithyaat Vam
Xar wrote:I updated the rules to address a loophole in the newbie protection rule whose existence I recently realized. From now on, if a deity who is enjoying newbie protection (the 4 turns in which he cannot be attacked) willingly attacks another deity (directly or indirectly, with his own power and/or the power bestowed by others), he or she forfeits the newbie protection, meaning that the attacked deity can retaliate even if the attacker ascended less than 4 turns before. This is to prevent situations in which a newly ascended deity is sent against an older deity, after being boosted with power from other deities, in order to harm the attacked deity while hiding behind the newbie protection rule.
heh. *snickers*
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:59 pm
by Injerian Praetus II
Interesting. I have a strong suspicion as to who it is; perhaps a little friend of ours who is running around offering his 'services' to everyone. It does not matter, for I revel in such games.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:28 pm
by I'm Murrin
Ah, I take it someone among us was unable to resist the offer, then.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:55 pm
by O-gon-cho
:::sitting here in the dark and not liking said comments at all:::
Anyone care to illuminate me?
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:51 pm
by Mithyaat Vam
welllll...
Nor's goin on about whose actions instigated the Allfather "claryifying" the rules. looks to me like he's speculating out loud as to who that might have been,
and Murrin is implying (by using the objective case of we, us) that he was "offered some services" and that he was able to resist said offer but he assumes others weren't.
that's the best i can make out. fairly straightforward.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:53 pm
by O-gon-cho
But...
Said rule change by the AllFather implies some pretty heavy stuff...?
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:54 pm
by Xar
An update about the votes for the creation myths: 4 votes are in. I won't tell you who is leading, though
As for the turn: I'm almost halfway through, but this is a rather complex turn, so I often have to go back and add or change stuff due to the interaction of moves. Hold on though!
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:16 pm
by Mistress Cathy
Wow, Xar. That was fast. You are awesome!
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:19 pm
by Mithyaat Vam
O-gon-cho wrote:But...
Said rule change by the AllFather implies some pretty heavy stuff...?
not necessarily.
just means that he found a loophole due to activity in the game.
he's clarifying.
it's not a "change" in the rules, it's a clarification that has not, heretofore in gameplay, needed clarification.
it makes total sense to clarify that point at this point in the game.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:29 pm
by Menolly
Mithyaat Vam wrote:
it makes total sense to clarify that point at this point in the game.
:::getting totally confused:::
I don't want to whine, truly I don't but...
Why???
What is going on "at this point in the game" that, as usual, is flying right over my head? Players commenting on this rule change with the remarks they have, coming out of the blue as far as I know, is making me nervous. And I don't know
why.