Pantheon 2.0 - Game Thread

[Argothoth]

Well, my sister, the power i used to reanimate the deads was too much to channel to specific bodies...
I'm sure anyway that your dead followers now are happy to be again in the beloved Eiran, and to see again their friends.

The next time i will do such kind of ritual i will be more precise and i will choose wisely the dead to reanimate.

It was my first time in reanimate all the deads of the world... it is natural that i did a mistake... don't you think?

[Norn]

Unfortunately Argothoth, the soul of Trolin remains forever part of the Weave, whist the soul of Rilu was consumed beyond returning before the departure of Queeaqueg. Therefore, all you have done is further desecrate the bodies of my beloved prophets.

Furthermore, while I understand that our powers often produce unintended consequences, I must ask why you felt it necessary to raise all the dead of Eiran in the first place. Is one life of suffering not enough that they must be dragged from their rest just so you can be the most power deity of the age?

[Argothoth]

Progress, knowledge, power, all come from the sperimentation.
I seek the comprehension of whole things. Mages and scientist often are not understood by the common people. I'm searcing for the truth and the source of life and death. I walk in the middle. You see a desacrated dead body, i see the perfection of the eternity.
But what is the problem about the corpse of your followers? If it is as you said, without the soul what kind of sofference could exist?
Do you know my undeads can't feel the pain? I gifted them with new LIFE! i blessed them with the highest gift a god could give to his followers, the eternal life.
I see nothing of wrong in that...

[Astavyastataa Kadna]

The soldier sees a difference between himself and the assassin. But there is none.

Whether the cause is Just or Ill - both spread DESTRUCTION and CHAOS.

Odal

As you do, Destructor? I am surprised you didn't choke when offering your allegiance to Law and Justice - and that is what you offered, isn't it?
Tell me, Destructor - how do you plan on being taken seriously by the Pantheon? With all your boasts and threats, and the truth about your actions - your slithering to the gods of Law, offering them help against one who only feeds Chaos - how can anyone believe your lies about your status as a higher power?

Ahhhh ... godling. It is clear that you do NOT understand DESTRUCTION'S role. CHAOS is kin to ORDER. You seem to think DESTRUCTION and CHAOS must be evil ... that is your smallness of thinking minor deity. Chaos and Destruction are necessary to existence. Without us there is entropy. I work against the forces that will impose an ORDER and STAGNATION, wherever those changes come from.

If I judge Stagnation and Order is with Justice - I will apose him; if I Judge stagnation is with Corruption , then Corruption in turn will be opposed! As long existence moves forward there will be CHAOS and DESTRUCTION to strengthen me. I ensure progress to the OMEGA ... I also do not heed the small mindedness of petty godlings.

As to lies ... BAH!! What do I need deceit for!? Arrogance I might be accused of ... but I have no need for lies!

And what of YOU? Perhaps in my frustration, constrained as I am in this reality, I reached for a Domain not mine. For that I apologize. *nods* But watch and ware new godling *the maelstrom darkens*; you bait me at YOUR peril!

[Xar]

Whether the cause is Just or Ill - both spread DESTRUCTION and CHAOS.

Odal

As you do, Destructor? I am surprised you didn't choke when offering your allegiance to Law and Justice - and that is what you offered, isn't it?
Tell me, Destructor - how do you plan on being taken seriously by the Pantheon? With all your boasts and threats, and the truth about your actions - your slithering to the gods of Law, offering them help against one who only feeds Chaos - how can anyone believe your lies about your status as a higher power?

Ahhhh ... godling. It is clear that you do NOT understand DESTRUCTION'S role. CHAOS is kin to ORDER. You seem to think DESTRUCTION and CHAOS must be evil ... that is your smallness of thinking minor deity. Chaos and Destruction are necessary to existence. Without us there is entropy. I work against the forces that will impose an ORDER and STAGNATION, wherever those changes come from.

If I judge Stagnation and Order is with Justice - I will apose him; if I Judge stagnation is with Corruption , then Corruption in turn will be opposed! As long existence moves forward there will be CHAOS and DESTRUCTION to strengthen me. I ensure progress to the OMEGA ... I also do not heed the small mindedness of petty godlings.

As to lies ... BAH!! What do I need deceit for!? Arrogance I might be accused of ... but I have no need for lies!

And what of YOU? Perhaps in my frustration, constrained as I am in this reality, I reached for a Domain not mine. For that I apologize. *nods* But watch and ware new godling *the maelstrom darkens*; you bait me at YOUR peril!

Odal

Arrogance and threats are all we ever hear from you, Destructor... ah yes, and unless I am mistaken, some gods have already met your Favored. Not so impressive, are they? In fact, it appears you are quick to dismiss their actions whenever you are called on to account for their doings - the attempt on Maeror's Prophet and the slaughter of Simjen's followers being cases in point. It seems you are one of two, Destructor: either an arrogant, cowardly godling who sends his followers to attack other deities and then claims not to know anything about them, or an incompetent godling who cannot even keep track of his own favored followers.
So which of the two are you?

[Astavyastataa Kadna]

Perhaps I will misplace them again ... and you will find the attack YOU. FOOL! I do not deny my FAVORED ... I help guide them; when they do my will and when they stray.

What God of the Pantheon has NOT had followers act against their wishes? BAH!! If you will accuse me, you must accuse all of them in turn! Are you so anile as to challenge any God or Goddess whose followers have acted either without explicit orders or against their wishes? If you are, you will see the entire Pantheon oppose you!

Perhaps new godling, you should watch and learn before you speak again! I grow tired of your foolishness!!

[O-gon-cho]

The soldier sees a difference between himself and the assassin. But there is none.

:::gravely nodding:::

Well said, brother. Hence my sadness at your picking at the intent of our brother Adomorn. I may not agree with him, but y'all are not so different for him to deserve such from you.

I was glad to see you compliment him on his humor while I was composing my thought.

I seek the comprehension of whole things. Mages and scientist often are not understood by the common people. I'm searcing for the truth and the source of life and death. I walk in the middle. You see a desacrated dead body, i see the perfection of the eternity.

:::semi-hysterical tittering:::

You seek the comprehension of whole things, brother? Unless a corpse is less than 100 years old, it isn't "whole." They would be non-contiguous. What was given these undeads, so that even those whose ligaments and tendons have turned to dust were able to rise? And what keeps them animated? Your power? Should your power be averted, what happens to these 'eternal' beings then?

:::attempting to regain control:::

I apologize, brother. I have stated before that disturbing the dead, and even excising skin and flesh from living as well as dead beings is a sacrilegious anathema to myself and my followers. But I realize the majority of the Pantheon do not hold to such beliefs. I mostly wish to state my agreement with Sister Norn in her anger that such was done. While I do not believe it was done with evil intent, never that, I feel a wrongness to it, and on such an immense scale it overwhelms my senses at times...

[Bhakti]

The Book of Law is open, and the Fiery Quill is in my hand. Nor Yekith has been found in violation of Law, although he seeks to repair. I intend to ask a last binding Oath from Nor Yekith: that he shall not attack, mutate or corrupt any lands that do not belong to him, any gods or any mortals who do not worship him, directly or indirectly, unless he is attacked first or unless the Pantheon as a whole agrees to concede lands or mortals to him, or unless the Pantheon concedes that another god is at fault with Nor Yekith and must make reparations.

First of all, Yek is not going to agree to this. It is his intent to force his will upon all of Eiran. His "peace" will be achieved by Mutating everything into something that can do nothing but worship him.

Second, even if he did agree to this, it would not prevent him from creating things within his own borders that "accidentally" spilled out into the world. "Oops! Sorry, folks. I didn't know that huge cauldron of mutagens was going to explode and rain down upon the world when I heated it to that temperature."

He will have his way, one way or another (although it will never come about because I sacrificed myself to him), or die trying.

[Vadhaka]

Picking at his intent? On the contrary, I admire it. That does not mean that I support him or believe that it will be effective though.

[O-gon-cho]

Picking at his intent? On the contrary, I admire it. That does not mean that I support him or believe that it will be effective though.

So be it, brother. I tend to find myself more often in agreement with you than not.

[Argothoth]

my dear sister O-gon-cho, the world of Eiran is beautiful because all the gods and the mortals have different points of view.

As i said before where you see a sacrilegious anathema, i see the perfection of my powers; you feel a wrongness to it, i can't feel something better to see the corspe of creatures that would be otherwise doomed to eterna and useless rest, to walk again in Eiran and be living once more.

It is matter of point of view, nothing else. And indeed, i never declared war to anybody, and my undeads are not here to conquer the world.

[Mistress Cathy]

Bhakti wrote:

First of all, Yek is not going to agree to this. It is his intent to force his will upon all of Eiran. His "peace" will be achieved by Mutating everything into something that can do nothing but worship him.

Second, even if he did agree to this, it would not prevent him from creating things within his own borders that "accidentally" spilled out into the world. "Oops! Sorry, folks. I didn't know that huge cauldron of mutagens was going to explode and rain down upon the world when I heated it to that temperature."

He will have his way, one way or another (although it will never come about because I sacrificed myself to him), or die trying.

I'm sorry, Hedra, but I have to agree with Bhakti on this one. He of all the other gods knows how Nor Yekith operates.

[O-gon-cho]

Bhakti wrote:

First of all, Yek is not going to agree to this. It is his intent to force his will upon all of Eiran. His "peace" will be achieved by Mutating everything into something that can do nothing but worship him.

Second, even if he did agree to this, it would not prevent him from creating things within his own borders that "accidentally" spilled out into the world. "Oops! Sorry, folks. I didn't know that huge cauldron of mutagens was going to explode and rain down upon the world when I heated it to that temperature."

He will have his way, one way or another (although it will never come about because I sacrificed myself to him), or die trying.

I'm sorry, Hedra, but I have to agree with Bhakti on this one. He of all the other gods knows how Nor Yekith operates.

*nod*

Count me as agreeing with this POV.

[Xar]

Perhaps I will misplace them again ... and you will find the attack YOU. FOOL! I do not deny my FAVORED ... I help guide them; when they do my will and when they stray.

What God of the Pantheon has NOT had followers act against their wishes? BAH!! If you will accuse me, you must accuse all of them in turn! Are you so anile as to challenge any God or Goddess whose followers have acted either without explicit orders or against their wishes? If you are, you will see the entire Pantheon oppose you!

Perhaps new godling, you should watch and learn before you speak again! I grow tired of your foolishness!!

Odal

Have you not claimed yourself that your Favored travel through their connection to your mind? Therefore it follows that you might prevent them from traveling, if they were acting contrary to your interests. But you didn't, so either you were unwilling or unable to prevent them from attempting to assassinate Maeror's Prophet. In turn, this simply confirms my assertion - you are either cowardly or incompetent.

Come, Destructor, everyone has his faults. I should know - I have lived enough to learn this. But soothe yourself with the thought everyone has his or her burden of flaws - I used to pride myself on my beard, but it is hard for a skeleton to grow one... we all have our burdens, Destructor!

[Xar]

The Book of Law is open, and the Fiery Quill is in my hand. Nor Yekith has been found in violation of Law, although he seeks to repair. I intend to ask a last binding Oath from Nor Yekith: that he shall not attack, mutate or corrupt any lands that do not belong to him, any gods or any mortals who do not worship him, directly or indirectly, unless he is attacked first or unless the Pantheon as a whole agrees to concede lands or mortals to him, or unless the Pantheon concedes that another god is at fault with Nor Yekith and must make reparations.

First of all, Yek is not going to agree to this. It is his intent to force his will upon all of Eiran. His "peace" will be achieved by Mutating everything into something that can do nothing but worship him.

Second, even if he did agree to this, it would not prevent him from creating things within his own borders that "accidentally" spilled out into the world. "Oops! Sorry, folks. I didn't know that huge cauldron of mutagens was going to explode and rain down upon the world when I heated it to that temperature."

He will have his way, one way or another (although it will never come about because I sacrificed myself to him), or die trying.

Hedra Iren

It saddens me to see that we are headed towards a confrontation and that every attempt at deflecting it is met with opposition. *sighs* So be it.

Hear me, gods and goddesses of Eiran!

You have raised me up as the Goddess and Keeper of the Law. Yet you invoke my rulings only to disagree with them and claim you will do what you wish, regardless of the consequences. And even when I attempt to forge a compromise, it is refused by one or all involved parties.

So be it.

I am weary of attempting to stifle war only to be rebuffed. I am weary of watching the gods of today repeating the same mistakes as the gods of the First Age. Even wearier, knowing that some of you should know better. Therefore know, gods and goddesses of Eiran, that the Law will not shield any of you any longer. If it is war you seek, like unruly children seeking to demonstrate who is the largest bully, or like animals fighting for supremacy in the pack, then who am I to stand in your way? With or without Law, many of you have stated you will destroy each other anyway; so be it.

But remember, gods of Eiran, that the blood you will spill will be upon your heads, and you will be called to judgment.

Know this, too: I will not have the new Divine War spill into Magoddar, where my dwarrow children and Simjen's have already suffered enough. And any of you who believes he can attack Magoddar or its people will regret it.
Furthermore, I will not associate with any breaker of Law; those of you who still choose to go to war will do so without my help, and any request for help will be denied. If you choose war, you will pay the consequences for your actions.

So speaks Hedra Iren. Do with this as you will.

[Mistress Cathy]

Hedra,

We are saddened as well that it has come to this. You know it to be true that many gods have acted in peaceful ways and have restrained their efforts to city-building and developing a safe and prosperous world for their followers.

However, it has come to pass that one god decides that he is going to bully the rest of us. Is it so horrible that we decide to protect ourselves?

Nor Yekith attempts to blackmail my husband with the life of my son and you say nothing. Just because Yekith retracts the blackmail threat everything is fine?

The law is a powerful tool - no one denies that. But it only works if all follow it. It has been through personal experience that some gods state that no matter what law is agreed to, it will be mutated to suit the bully by the bully.

I'm sure that you will find that the majority of the Pantheon would agree with such laws as you have offered. The problem is that agreements are held dear by some and ignored by others. Otherwise, war would have come much sooner to Eiran.

Perhaps if you had spoken sooner, this could have all been avoided. I know that Bhakti has been plagued for years by Nor Yekith's tyranny yet you remained silent. Why did you not speak then?

I myself have looked for clarification on laws and was answered with silence. I, therefore, stopped asking.

After the plethora of threats that Nor Yekith has thrown around the Pantheon - so much so that they are no longer empty but true (otherwise Yek would not be a god of his word) - we believe in his promise of utter mutation of Eiran and you stand there in judgement of US???

You condemn us and make more threats that we will 'pay the consequences of our actions.'

I wonder where you condemnation is of the one god who began all of this - Nor Yektih.

[O-gon-cho]

I thank you for your attempts at forging a peace, Hedra Iren. I admit I do not trust Nor Yekith to hold completely to what he would agree, if he agreed at all.

I have not stated my intent to join in supporting a war; in fact I have pleaded for war to not come to Immeril. So far, I have no justification in joining in such a plan. But, I must still stay alert to my neighbors, as I have reason to no longer trust either of them. Should either of them drag me in to this, I hope judgement of me would be forgiving.

[Mithyaat Vam]

Perhaps if you had spoken sooner, this could have all been avoided. I know that Bhakti has been plagued for years by Nor Yekith's tyranny yet you remained silent. Why did you not speak then?

well said sister. i too would like an answer to this question. i have been engaged, since waking in this world, in one way or another, every single turn, in helping one god or another against the ravages and promises The Black Worm visits upon us...to the detriment of my own power. the law has not helped us.

tell us, Hedra, are we not using the law correctly? is it a game of semantics? what exactly must we do to keep the Black Worm from spreading his "beauty" among our peoples and our lands?

oh...and Ogoncho, remember, hell burns hottest for he or she who sits on a FENCE.

[O-gon-cho]

oh...and Ogoncho, remember, hell burns hottest for he or she who sits on a FENCE.

:small private smile:

Thank you, sister. I will keep that in mind.

[Mistress Cathy]

Well said, sister Mithyaat. Well said, indeed.