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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:54 pm
by Astavyastataa Kadna
There IS ... I CAN bring down the STAR!

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:03 pm
by O-gon-cho
Mithyaat Vam wrote:it seems to me that if the only way to petition the Allfather with our request for Vadhaka's plan is for one of us to enter the mists and doing so would could cause the destruction of Eiren, the Allfather does not WISH to be petitioned for ANY reason.

i mean...is Allfather saying we can never petition him for anything?

there must be another way, yes?
:::slowly shaking head:::

I know of none, other than fervant prayers. Should he deign to enlighten us, I will ask my followers to compose fervant psalms to his glory.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:18 pm
by Astavyastataa Kadna
BAH!!! Such timidness is unseemly in a Deity!!

Perhaps you should return to your mortal roots!

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:19 pm
by stonemaybe
What is this talk of entering the mists to petition the Allfather? Why risk the destruction of Eiran?

If the power is there - and I also will support Vadhaka's idea - we have other options. Are we not the Gods of Eiran?

Bhakti:
Does the fact that a child is your child of destiny give you the right of possession? Those children that Nor kidnapped from your lands - would you have accepted his act if it turned out that one of them was his 'child of destiny'? I don't think you would have. If the child is born to a family of Melirelle's worshippers, the child is hers. Surely you would be wiser to seek alliance with Melirelle, rather than level accusations her way? As you know, I speak from experience. A child of destiny's heart is much more easily turned away from you than towards you.

Tarnished Sword:
Welcome to Eiran!

Undine

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:27 pm
by O-gon-cho
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote:BAH!!! Such timidness is unseemly in a Deity!!

Perhaps you should return to your mortal roots!
Cousin, to whom do you speak?

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:41 pm
by Mistress Cathy
Very wise words, Undine. Very wise, indeed.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:03 pm
by Astavyastataa Kadna
O-gon-cho wrote:
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote:BAH!!! Such timidness is unseemly in a Deity!!

Perhaps you should return to your mortal roots!
Cousin, to whom do you speak?
TO YOU!
O-gon-cho wrote: ...I will ask my followers to compose fervant psalms to his glory.
Are you a Goddess? Or a mortal that seeks to curry favors with her better? We may respect the AllFather's authority and power ... but our focus should be on our OWN glory!!

I bend my knee to NO ONE!

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:15 pm
by O-gon-cho
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote:
O-gon-cho wrote:
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote:BAH!!! Such timidness is unseemly in a Deity!!

Perhaps you should return to your mortal roots!
Cousin, to whom do you speak?
TO YOU!
O-gon-cho wrote: ...I will ask my followers to compose fervant psalms to his glory.
Are you a Goddess? Or a mortal that seeks to curry favors with her better? We may respect the AllFather's authority and power ... but our focus should be on our OWN glory!!

I bend my knee to NO ONE!
:::knowing smile:::

I thought as much, cousin. But, you call yourself a PRIME. I have no grand...:::no, best not say delusions:::...conceptions of myself. But if I may remind you, I have said to many that I am willing to learn. Are you willing to TEACH one such as I to be so arrogant all the time? I feel I must warn you I have a thick skull and a somewhat tough, although I am happy with it, hide. And I can be very stubborn, as I think even you have found out on occasion.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:31 pm
by Benito Alvarez
Xar wrote: And to Lord Adomorn I publicly say: I promised you I would not join Nor Yekith's forces if you waged war against him, as long as your men would not harm or attack my followers in Nor Pupae. The disappearance of Nor Yekith will cause many of his erstwhile followers to turn to one or another of the Khenstorn Gods for comfort and protection. My promise still stands: I will not get in your way as long as you and your followers, and any who ally with you, do not harm my people, including those who will convert now. Should any of my people be harmed, and reparations not be made, I will consider it an act of war and act accordingly.
We are still in agreement in this, Merielle. I would ask a favor, though. Do not jump to conclusions. Combat is an unruly place, and mistakes will be made on BOTH sides. I fully expect that some of your people will attack mine. Instead of calling foul on you, I will ask whether or not this was intentional. I ask only that you do the same for me. My followers have explicit orders NOT to attack your people, but mistakes DO happen. I have almost been involved in two seperate wars because of such actions of my followers. I do NOT wish to be involved in a third.


Xar wrote:I spoke of this with the God of War when he was still Justice - and I hope that the change has not shattered our agreement.
I feel I should clarify to you and the Pantheon. I am NOT a God of War. I saw what happens when Conquest or War comes about. I do not walk that path anymore. I am the God of Combat. My soliders a guided by a Code of Honor that I am having spread to all corners of my lands. If you wish, I will PM you their new code.
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote: In combat is CHAOS and DESTRUCTION ... I approve cousin, indeed I APPROVE! *bows*
Perhaps in YOUR combat Asta, but in mine we are guided by our fundamental morals. There is also Order in battle, and Combat without Destruction. I ask now to NOT refer to me in such terms again.

The next request will not be polite.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:35 pm
by Benito Alvarez
Stonemaybe wrote:Does the fact that a child is your child of destiny give you the right of possession? Those children that Nor kidnapped from your lands - would you have accepted his act if it turned out that one of them was his 'child of destiny'? I don't think you would have. If the child is born to a family of Melirelle's worshippers, the child is hers. Surely you would be wiser to seek alliance with Melirelle, rather than level accusations her way? As you know, I speak from experience. A child of destiny's heart is much more easily turned away from you than towards you.
I agree Bhakti, you and I of all people should know the truth of this.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:56 pm
by Astavyastataa Kadna
Lord Adomorn wrote: ...
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote: In combat is CHAOS and DESTRUCTION ... I approve cousin, indeed I APPROVE! *bows*
Perhaps in YOUR combat Asta, but in mine we are guided by our fundamental morals. There is also Order in battle, and Combat without Destruction. I ask now to NOT refer to me in such terms again.

The next request will not be polite.
Watch and ware godling ... your new Domain perhaps is giving you delusions of grandeur!! I do NOT take orders. You would do best to hold a civil tongue; lest you see your ability for combat substantially reduced!

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:59 pm
by Benito Alvarez
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote: Watch and ware godling ... your new Domain perhaps is giving you delusions of grandeur!! I do NOT take orders.

You speak to ME of Delusions of Gradeur? :D You MUST know how that sounds coming from YOU Asta. Besides, I thought I made it clear that I was asking nicely. The NEXT time I wont. That WILL be an order.
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote: You would do best to hold a civil tongue; lest you see your ability for combat substantially reduced!
In the past I would not attack Nor despite his threats against me and the Pantheon. I am no longer held by such bonds.

This is threat number one. Keep it up, and see what you bring down upon yourself.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:08 pm
by Astavyastataa Kadna
Perhaps we should wait until we eradicate MALICE ... and then ... you may try COMBAT ... if my SHARP words about your INNSOLENCE are met by your sharp swords ... but drop your Domain of HONOR ... it no longer FITS you ... and take up the Domain of WAR ... it is more consistent with your rhetoric!

And when you attack ... you will find out what CHAOS and DESTRUCTION you will reap!!

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:10 pm
by Benito Alvarez
Honor no longer fits? And who are you to say such things?

Perhaps you should drop Destruction? You haven't really DONE anyting with it yet. It doesn't suit you anymore.

I attack only when I am threatened. You are not a threat as of now. But, ware your words, for if you DO become a threat to me and my peoples, they will only strengthen my cause.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:25 pm
by Bhakti
Let me first address these comments:
Mithyaat Vam wrote:Bhakti and Melirelle WILL come to an agreement to either kill the child or each other fighting over the child, or some other solution to the situation.
you both have my blessings toward a peaceful solution.
Lord Adomorn wrote:
Undine wrote:Bhakti:
Does the fact that a child is your child of destiny give you the right of possession? Those children that Nor kidnapped from your lands - would you have accepted his act if it turned out that one of them was his 'child of destiny'? I don't think you would have. If the child is born to a family of Melirelle's worshippers, the child is hers. Surely you would be wiser to seek alliance with Melirelle, rather than level accusations her way? As you know, I speak from experience. A child of destiny's heart is much more easily turned away from you than towards you.
I agree Bhakti, you and I of all people should know the truth of this.
In my previous two messages, I said the child is Melirelle's. The matter is resolved. Peacefully. I have already said I will take no action against her. I seriously doubt she will have Argothoth's requested assistance in raising the child to be my greatest enemy, but she is free to do so on her own. Aside from that one thing, she is getting exactly what she wanted. But now, the Pantheon knows what she did and is attempting to do, and she knows that all of you know. That was the only thing I had any hope of achieving.

I hope this is the end of talk about my child of destiny.

As for Undine's suggestion of forming an alliance with Melirelle... I mean, really, Undine. Yes, I had grave doubts about her from the beginning. But I never acted against her. I only put up defenses against actions she might possibly take against me. And when I learned that she actually helped my daughter survive Birth, after I put Tamarisk in danger, I announced to all that I would no longer assume she is my enemy, and I would stop putting up defenses against actions she might possibly take against me. At which point, she used DRP's to find my child of destiny, not tell me anything about this child who is of such importance to me, then ask Argothoth's help in turning the child into my enemy in the near future. I'm not sure what kind of alliance this leaves room for.

As for this:
Maeror wrote:Bhakti, the lines you are quoting here are referring not to the child but to the actions of Argothoth and whether or not you knew of his actions, a question I am increasingly wondering about myself, since you are so adamantly ignoring it.
I was only trying to make sure she was not able to change the conversation from the topic of my child of destiny - which is how I began this "conversation" (Although I did not begin it by accusing her of anything. I merely stated what Argothoth told me. It was possible that Argothoth misunderstood whatever messages Melirelle sent him regarding the child, or that he was lying to me about it.) - to Argothoth's actions and his "betrayal" of Nor Yekith. To answer that...

Yes, I knew what Argothoth was going to do all along. It was always his intention to dupe Nor Yekith into helping him (Argothoth) raise the army that would then destroy him (Nor Yekith). Very few have ever been willing to go against Nor Yekith's intentions toward Eiran in such a way. A way that openly declared them to be Nor Yekith's enemy. And none had the chance of succeeding.

If Nor Yekith had had his way, these 1,000,000 (soon to be 2) would now be marching on all of us. Instead, they were going to march on him.

It is surely not the best of all possible worlds to have all of Eiran's dead rise again. However, they can still Love, Trade, Dream, Build, Destroy, etc. They can even Die. Melirelle is so opposed to this (At least she is now. She donated more DRP's to it than my 1.) because it turned out they will not be used to help Nor Yekith force his will onto all of Eiran and destroy me, both of which he promised more than once. I, on the other hand, choose Argothoth's way because of the very same things - it prevents Nor Yekith from forcing his will onto all of Eiran and destroying me.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:55 pm
by Astavyastataa Kadna
Bahkti, I am the God of CHAOS ... but even I am weary of the CHAOTIC thoughts of your so called mind and the cacophony of your whining!!

Please cease IMMEDIATELY!!

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:56 pm
by Moxinomal
O-gon-cho wrote:
Tarnished Sword wrote:Well, I am glad to see that I am not hated the moment I set foot in to exsistance, that's the last thing I need is the monkey the size of a mountain on my back.
:::raised eyebrows:::

I have already welcomed you, Moxinomal, may I also call you Mox?
Yes. Yes you may.
But as far as hating you as soon as you arrive, that may depend on how you answer a few questions I have.
Tarnished Sword wrote:On the continent of Immeril, set within a valley between two looming and craggy peaks sat a small cottage.
Tell me, is this mine, Astavyastataa Kadna's or Simjen's follower you have usurped? As far as I know, there are no other sentient beings on Immeril other than our followers.
One of your's, sadly. One who had to watch their family die twice would be hard to keep under the your light.
Tarnished Sword wrote:"All you have to do is go forth in to this world of chaos and spread my word.”


Where on Immeril are your lands? We already have areas in contention, why not join in the fray?

Is this one of Astavyastataa Kadna's followers then? I know of no mountains in his lands. But as his are the only habitable lands of Immeril that was effected by the mutation wave, if the land has become dangerous and chaotic it must be there.
Why throw myself in the fray off the bat? Perhaps someone is contesting for the domains I have? :lol:
:::however, I am also fatigued, and may be reading the whole thing wrong:::

Answer my questions satisfactorily, Moxinomal and I will still welcome you gladly. Confirm my worst fears, and we may have to talk more.
Talking more? Ohhh goody! I so do enjoy pleasant conversations.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:16 pm
by Astavyastataa Kadna
You have heard Vadhaka's plan.

Now hear mine.

All God's donate two DRP. 1 DRP is donated to Maeror. 1 DRP is donated to me.

I will use ALL my DRP and the donated DRP to DESTROY the STAR.

Maeror - AFTER the STAR's DESTRUCTION - will HEAL the world; wiping Mutation off Eian!

Any remainder of strength I have will DESTROY the forces of MALICE in Nor Yekith and Yekithii that are NOT redeemed by Maeror.

Argothoth and Adomorn my attack and finish the rest.

No AllFather needed. No risk to Eiran. MALICE and MUTATION ended!!

What say you cousins?

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:18 pm
by Argothoth
Welcome to our newest member.
May you find on Eiran what you are searching for.
Melirelle wrote:If you want me to prove I have no evil intent, then I request you judge the God of the Undead first, for the crime he has performed and the pain he has visited upon countless souls in Eiran.
In the name of the AllFather, who ever said that be undead means pain? Who ever said that it is a "bad" thing?
I admit, i don't know what is the fate of the mindless undeads souls (i will be glad to study this with Maeror if he will), but i know that minded undeads can do anything the other creature can.
They can love, think, write, research new spells, worship gods. I used my power to rise dead from their useless rest.

Melirelle, you can say that walking deads are unnatural, but certainly you can't say that it is a crime.
I'm not stealing anything to anyone!
Your accusations are weak. What was the benefit that a god can have from dead followers? No one. No power, no thoughts, nothing of nothing!
I just used what the other gods can't use.

I'm not a criminal, i didn't attack anyone of the pantheon.
No one of my undeads had attacked a living being by my words.

Beginning from your words i can say: why Maeror do not give the choice to the living being to become undead after the dead? Why do you think it is right that Maeror keep the souls of the deads?

You can turn the words as you want, if you have the will to do this.

The gods that helped me in my tasks know that i acted thinking at my interests and to Eiran, both. As Bhakti said, i was the only one that was able to oppose nor yekith, and stop him from accomplish his hideous task.

for what crime i should be judged?

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:21 pm
by Bhakti
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote:Bahkti, I am the God of CHAOS ... but even I am weary of the CHAOTIC thoughts of your so called mind and the cacophony of your whining!!

Please cease IMMEDIATELY!!
Well, since you said "please." :D