Kevin's Watch

Ooops.

Paul sent me this yesterday and I forgot to post...

Just wanted to let you know that these ideas are almost into the mainstream physics community at this point. The work of the Institute of Noetic Sciences and the Princeton Anomalous Research Institute has demonstrated a clear non-random influence of consciousness upon both physiology and software without any known intervening mechanism or medium. The current thinking is that the consciousness and quantum electrodynamic fields are "entangled" in some way, possibly involving non-temporo-spatial dimensions. Once a quantifiable relationship between individual and/or collective mentation and these anomalous effects is established we can expect a wholesale revolution in technology and society at least an order of magnitude greater than the so called "information age" ushered in. More importantly the ability of any individual to change reality, or to inspire groups to do the same, will dramatically alter our understanding of ethics, human rights, and democracy. This is a kind of spiritual change that may really change things for the better.

Anyway, more anon.

P

Paul wrote:The work of the Institute of Noetic Sciences and the Princeton Anomalous Research Institute has demonstrated a clear non-random influence of consciousness upon both physiology and software without any known intervening mechanism or medium.

Can you give any specifics?

Paul wrote:This is a kind of spiritual change that may really change things for the better.

I don't follow you. Why do you suspect a spiritual change for the better will take place? Why will the spiritual nature of humanity not remain the same? In which case, if I understand the possibilities, some people will be creating viruses, physiological and computer, through nothing but conscious will.

One interesting area of specific and productive research appears to be consciousness affecting random number generators. Here is one such article from fairly well-established folks in the field. www.boundaryinstitute.org/articles/FoPL_nelson-pp.pdf

As far as the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research (PEAR) group, try here: www.princeton.edu/%7Epear/Allen_Press/P ... sition.pdf


The upshot is that at a very small scale, physical systems appear to be sensitive to the inentions of either experimenters or other nearby humans. I am not enough of an expert to extend or defend that claim any further, but I expect it to be validated both continually and exponentially in the future based on my own subjective experiences. If one person can change a machine with mental power alone, or change the state of an immune-cell, this is enough for me to think that a whole bunch of really cool things will soon be coming down the pike.

As far as a spiritual change, there will most likely be a distribution of folks' motives and characters not so very different from that found today. But it destroys the notion that things are disconnected, so that one's thoughts become a new realm of ethical responsibility. The notion of karma might begin to seem more reasonable so that folks don't think they're really gaining anything by hurting each other. But perhaps I am just overoptimistic. Also, I find that if you think you can control your world by will, you might feel like trying a few things out; any success will strengthen people's belief in the spiritual realm, making them more likely to want to take action to improve things.

Of course I am simply generalizing from me on a good day..

P

Fascinating. Thanks Paul and Menolly.

As much as I like the idea of Karma, and despite my usual belief that things are disconnected in a sense, but clearly connected in another, (I know ), I cynically suspect that it will take a lot for the idea to become part of the fabric of human consciousness as it were.

--A

Was thinking about what Paul said this weekend, and it occurs to me that humans as a whole expect their thoughts to be able to affect reality.

How often, when dwelling on a negative possibility, have you told yourself, "Don't think about it."

As if thinking about it can somehow magically make it real?

Why would this belief be coded in if it wasn't possible in some way?

--A

Off the top of my head, Avatar, I'd say that the reasons why humans expect their thoughts to affect reality, if this were not possible, would be the same as why we thought the Earth was the center of the universe... the desire, conscious or not, to see the universe through an anthropocentric viewpoint

That was pretty much the potential explanation I thought of, in other words, the same reason the people create gods.

But it occurred to me that maybe the answer was experience. In other words, when people articulated their fears, and their fears materialised, the started to have a glimmering of how conciousness actually did affect "reality."

--A

Menolly here, but I'm pretty sure Paul's response will be, "Precisely!"

If he responds to the latest email of posts, I'll post his reply here.

Thanks Menolly. Or just tell him to join up himself...

--A

Excellent posts Xar. You just saved me a lot of work

Prebe! 08/08. Good to see you back on time. Been having fun? We missed you.

--A

I had a great holiday thanks. Much of it was at home, but I tried some simple living by remaining off-line for most of the time. A novel experience. Some drawback symptoms, not too bad though. I might want to do it more often

Be careful now...don't overdo it...

--A

As a comment to this thread, I probably could envision a biochemical pathway through which genetical makeup could be modified through psychological factors. It is, after all, all chemistry

To assume that any such change would be directional as opposed to random is highly unlikely.

I can certainly see what you're saying there, but that's on a far more microcosmic scale than what we're suggesting I think.

I'm thinking more along the lines of it affecting the macrocosm...you know...the power of positive thought and all that.

--A

Avatar wrote:

How often, when dwelling on a negative possibility, have you told yourself, "Don't think about it."

As if thinking about it can somehow magically make it real?

Why would this belief be coded in if it wasn't possible in some way?

This reminds me of a bit of the Aubrey/Maturin series of books by Patrick O'Brian. There are a couple of seamen talking, and one checks another, saying "naming calls", as the second was about to mention the possibility of something bad happening. As in, if you name something out loud, you attract its attention. Touching wood is a protection from tempting fate like this, I think.

That's exactly the kind of thing I'm thinking about. Tempting fate. Jinxing things. Our worst imaginings somehow gaining substance simply by the act of articulating, even thinking, them.

Perhaps the world is more sensitive to our thoughts and words than we usually believe?

--A

New Research Confirms "Out Of Africa" Theory Of Human Evolution

Researchers have produced new DNA evidence that almost certainly confirms the theory that all modern humans have a common ancestry.

Good stuff...There is only a few people who support the out of Asia theory and the majority of their hypotheses have failed. Looks like this will probably be the final nail in the proverbial coffin.

About the finches, I'm confused. This research shows an example of a species adapting to better suit the environment. Who doesn't think that such a thing occurs in nature? However, to say that this proves the belief of molecules to man is ridiculous. I'm also confused in that this would support the young earth creationists view, that speciation would occur rapidly, hence the variation we have now after the flood, tho w/in 10,000 years.