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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:54 am
by Loredoctor
Brinn wrote:Nolan has earned my forebearance on the issue. Heath Ledger wouldn't have been on my list of likely candidates but the quality of "Batman Begins" has earned him the benfit of the doubt in my book.
Good post. However, I have my doubts.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:41 am
by sgt.null
LF: Crispen Glover would have made a great Scarecrow!

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:18 pm
by dANdeLION
I'm waiting to see the movie before I judge this; clearly Nolan knows what he's doing here.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:01 pm
by dlbpharmd
Since Ledger has been a non-comedy actor in the past, this might actually work.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:28 pm
by dANdeLION
It should. I read the graphic novel this film is supposedly going to be based on (I think it was called 'Batman: The Killing Joke'); you saw the insane Joker in it, not the funny Joker.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:32 pm
by Worm of Despite
Brinn wrote:Nolan has earned my forebearance on the issue. Heath Ledger wouldn't have been on my list of likely candidates but the quality of "Batman Begins" has earned him the benfit of the doubt in my book.
Nolan blew me away with "Begins" and "Memento", but--ah heck, okay, maybe I'm not that torn about this whole thing.

I mean, Katie Holms didn't ruin the first movie for me, and she usually makes me retch. Plus, I happen to think Ledger's a pretty good actor. Just the absolute last person I’d expect to get the part. But hey: Nicholson didn't exactly look like Joker to me, and yet he and Keaton kept the whole film aloft. *shrugs*

Meh, still: Katie Holmes was cast in a minor role; this is the freaking Joker here. I know Bale will do his part to keep the film floating; here's hoping Ledger does the same.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:44 pm
by matrixman
dlbpharmd wrote:Robin Williams doesn't seem like a good choice to me. The Joker is insane, a madman, and I think that Williams would portray him as humorous. There's nothing funny about the Joker, he should be portrayed as extremely dangerous, possessing almost super human strength, ever bit the match for Batman.
Point taken. The last thing we want is an over-the-top style of performance that may wreck the mood Nolan is after. I defend Williams by saying he's a very capable actor who has shown in dramatic films that he can switch off his funny-man persona at will to suit the story. Oh, well. Whatever. I'm sure Ledger will put his own stamp on the Joker.

Great choices, Sarge and LF: either Buscemi or Glover would've been excellent as the Joker! (oops, or Scarecrow)

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:00 pm
by Worm of Despite
And for the record: wasn't at all disappointed by Cillian Murphy. Took me a while to recognize him from 28 Days.

I also realized: this is Batman Begins--the early days and such. I suppose it makes sense that all the primary actors are noticeably younger (Batman, Scarecrow, now Joker) than we normally remember them.

Damn, what's wrong with me. Gotta get Batman Begins on DVD already.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:12 pm
by duchess of malfi
Ledger is one of the best (if not the best actor of his generation. He has done light fun roles (such as Casanova), and also some very serious ones (such as the ones in Monster's Ball and Broke Back Mountain).

Given his track record, I am certainly willing to see what he can do in this part.

He is also very easy on the eyes. :twisted:

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:25 am
by Plissken
dANdeLION wrote:It should. I read the graphic novel this film is supposedly going to be based on (I think it was called 'Batman: The Killing Joke'); you saw the insane Joker in it, not the funny Joker.
Is it really going to be based on The Killing Joke? If Ledger can pull off that monologue, I'll be severely impressed. It's one of my faves.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:15 am
by sgt.null
I guess I should rent Batman Begins then?

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:27 am
by Lord Mhoram
Definitely, null!

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:28 am
by duchess of malfi
Oh yes - it is very good! I did not like any of the other Batman movies, but I really enjoyed that one, it is very well done! :D 8)

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:05 am
by sgt.null
thanks I shall. I thought the first Keaton was good. but did not enjoy the others so much.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:16 pm
by matrixman
Heh, I haven't bought Batman Begins either. Waiting to get a cheap, used copy.