Kevin's Watch

Avatar, you are making me cry. There, a picture of Hobbes always makes me feel better.

I have no faith in movies made from books I loved.

--A

Lady Revel wrote: There, a picture of Hobbes always makes me feel better.

I am honored, m'lady. At your service...

I love you, Hobbes.

I'm looking forward to seeing the movie. Been following the movie making news at a site called Ender's Ansible.

In case anyone doesn't know, they've released the first trailer.

It's an abomination.

wayfriend wrote:It's an abomination.

That has more special effects than my imagination

It's much shinier and noiser. It's more like the new Star Trek reboot than anything else. Definitely not the 'Ender's Game' I was hoping for.

u.

ussusimiel wrote:

wayfriend wrote:It's an abomination.

That has more special effects than my imagination

It's much shinier and noiser. It's more like the new Star Trek reboot than anything else. Definitely not the 'Ender's Game' I was hoping for.

u.

Popcorn movie for a popcorn novel.

What bothers me is

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The most major aspect of the story is that Ender is never told anything.

That, and Ford sounds like he's walking through.

Orlion wrote:Popcorn movie for a popcorn novel.

Now, now! No need to to use the movie to take a pop at the book.

u.

ussusimiel wrote:

Orlion wrote:Popcorn movie for a popcorn novel.

Now, now! No need to to use the movie to take a pop at the book.

u.

Dude, that was corny.

I agree with WF, though perhaps not quite that extent...it is only a tiny trailer, after all...
But it implies...or perhaps I infer from it...they've just put it through the juicer to extract sweet action fluff and money.

wayfriend wrote:It's an abomination.

Surprise surprise.

--A

I like a lot of OSC's work. Heck, I would say he has a way with telling a story. His opinions are a seperate issue.

I like Ender's Game quite a bit. It took a long time to become a movie. I'd be greatly disappointed to see it end up being mistreated as a movie.

Is Ender's Game a YA book? That's debatable. I think the whole point of OSC's writing is that he doesn't dumb stuff down when it comes to kids. So I think Ender's Game is more an adult book that kids should read, rather than a kids book.

Hashi Lebwohl wrote:

Not being interested in OSC at all,I will probably miss this one.

Good to know I'm not the only one.

wayfriend wrote:Is Ender's Game a YA book? That's debatable. I think the whole point of OSC's writing is that he doesn't dumb stuff down when it comes to kids. So I think Ender's Game is more an adult book that kids should read, rather than a kids book.

Probably not, which is why I had to add "stories featuring children as the main character". I have never read anything by Mr. Card so I don't know anything about him at all.

wayfriend wrote:Is Ender's Game a YA book? That's debatable. I think the whole point of OSC's writing is that he doesn't dumb stuff down when it comes to kids. So I think Ender's Game is more an adult book that kids should read, rather than a kids book.

I agree. Ender's Game is definitely not YA. The point is supposed to be that gifted kids behave much like adults. The problem with this (which Card doesn't really tackle) is that most adults are not self-aware enough to behave like real adults. Card's characters' solutions to things tend to be too simplisticly effective and not relevant to real life. It's as if Card has only read psychology up to Freud and philosophy up to Russell. A bit like a gifted child with limited knowledge

u.

[EDIT: to fix typo.]

I just didn't think it was a great book. I looked for lists online of"Best SF Books Ever", and this topped a few of the lists. Nothing wrong with it, but not remotely among the best, imo.

I imagine a lot of people read it while they were younger/ it was the first sci-fi novel they read where the protagonist

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murders an entire civilization

, and how cool is that?

Vraith wrote:I agree with WF, though perhaps not quite that extent...it is only a tiny trailer, after all...
But it implies...or perhaps I infer from it...they've just put it through the juicer to extract sweet action fluff and money.[/color]

The book was written in 1985 and it reflects its time in terms of technology. There is a drabness, a grittiness and quasi-dystopian feel about Ender's Game that is reflected in the characters' lives and attitudes. The ongoing conflicts between the different geopolitical alliances means that resources are being soaked up by the military and government. It is also a world that is under threat of annihilation from an alien race and so is desperately pouring money into planetary defences and spaceships. There is significant poverty and deprivation. The world represented in the novel is not the shiny glitzy thing I saw in the trailer. If it were the whole point of Ender being a third child (an 'ender') would not exist.

It looks like they are going for a post-naughties-lets-CGI-the-f***-out-it-cos-it'll-make-us-s***loads-of-money look

u.

[EDIT 1: to fix typos.]

[EDIT 2 + 3: to fix typos made in EDIT 1 + 2 ]