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Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:09 am**

As would I. As I said, I've read Dr No (though I don't own it), I'm part way through Live and Let Die, and Moonraker is awaiting my attention. I'd be interested in knowing what else to look for and in what order they occur.

Incidentally, I remember reading an article in a sunday newspaper that mentioned a Bond novel where Bond-- actually, I'd better Spoiler this in case it's accurate:

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...a book where Bond actually dies, followed by one in which he's reanimated as some sort of zombie assassin. Is that true? I've mentioned it to someone before, who seemed to think it might happen in Live and Let Die (presumably due to the presence of Baron Samedi) but so far the book shows no signs of such oddness.

EDIT: Damn, you beat me to it. Git.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:01 pm**

CovJr wrote

EDIT: Damn, you beat me to it. Git.

Right back at ya!

With regards to what you spoilered: not really. I think I know what they're talking about though. (Carefull about the spoilered section below, it gives away big parts of a couple of the books.)

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At the end of You Only Live Twice, Bond is amnesiac and presumed dead by his service. At the start of Golden Gun, he returns, after being "rehabiliated" by the Russians, and tries to assinate M, before coming back to "normal".

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:14 pm**

Interesting. I can only assume the sunday paper in question was fishing for shock value, then, since I clearly remember the word

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zombie

being used. Damn journalists.

Can't trust a word they say, even a word like

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zombie.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:17 pm**

Yup, can't trust em. Oh I should say, I was only referring to the original Fleming novels. But I've read many of the Gardner novels:

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No zombies

And I recgonize somebody else (Benson, Benton? something like that) has been writing some recently, but I haven't read those, so I suppose it's possible.

BTW - I wouldn't recommend anyone reading the Gardner novels.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:29 pm**

That good, eh? I'll steer clear.

I'm pretty sure the article was just referring to the Fleming ones, since it made a big fuss about how he lost the plot when he wrote the

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zombie

story. Makes me wonder if the journalist just skimmed the books in question - or got the work experience kid to do it - and drew badly distorted conclusions. In a way I'm relieved, but in another way I'm disappointed; I'd be a little curious to see a

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zombie assassin

Bond.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:47 pm**

I'm going to have to pick up some of those books.

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ZOMBIE!

heh, just had to say it.

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:05 am**

Mortice Root wrote:KiGirl, if you really liked the CR movie, you may want to check out the Fleming novel it was based on. Fleming was actually a pretty decent writer, and the CR movie follows the book reasonably close. I mean, there are some time period and technology related differences, 'cause it's a cold war type novel, but the overall plot is pretty similar. And some of the best sequences in the movie (IMO) were the scences surrounding the card game and it's aftermath. That section in the novel was almost exactly the same ebb and flow to it.

Well, I assume Fleming didn't have any parkour chase scenes in his book? THAT PART WAS AWESOME!!

In the books, Bond suffers. In Dr No, he's forced to go through a hellish ventilation shaft maze full of spiders and red-hot metal and all kinds of nasty stuff - and, as I recall, he's reduced to bare animal consciousness by the time he escapes, driven on only by unthinking, primal rage and fear.

Are you saying the dragon tank in the film version wasn't TERRIFYING!?

Oh, and where does goldeneye fit in that list of bond movies? It's the most important bond film for me b/c of the N64 game XD Though thunderball and CR are my favorites.

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:03 am**

Holsety wrote:Are you saying the dragon tank in the film version wasn't TERRIFYING!?

Bah, that's nothing. The shaft maze of doom was hardcore. Part of it might be the nature of the medium - in book form, we're bound to feel more of Bond's pain than we do just watching him.

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:58 pm**

Holstey wrote

Well, I assume Fleming didn't have any parkour chase scenes in his book? THAT PART WAS AWESOME!!

Yup, that was a movie creation only.

Oh, and where does goldeneye fit in that list of bond movies?

The list was just for the Fleming books. Goldeneye was just a movie script, not based on any of Fleming's stuff (other than having Bond present, of course....)

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:54 pm**

CovenantJr wrote: In the books, Bond suffers. In Dr No, he's forced to go through a hellish ventilation shaft maze full of spiders and red-hot metal and all kinds of nasty stuff - and, as I recall, he's reduced to bare animal consciousness by the time he escapes, driven on only by unthinking, primal rage and fear.

I've wanted for a few years to see a series of Bond films based more closely on the books, and it looks like the Craig era is going to do a fair job of granting that wish.

But will we ever get Bond battling sharks with frickin' lasers? Only time will tell. *sigh*

The N64 game was important for many reasons. One of the early first-person shooters where you could battle your friends. It also introduced a new generation to Bond. My 7-yr-old was completely unaware of Bond until this game. Now he loves all things Bond, and sat through CR twice at the theater without making a sound.

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:11 pm**

Malik23 wrote: The N64 game was important for many reasons. One of the early first-person shooters where you could battle your friends. It also introduced a new generation to Bond. My 7-yr-old was completely unaware of Bond until this game. Now he loves all things Bond, and sat through CR twice at the theater without making a sound.

just so you know, we did cover his eyes during the torture scene.

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:27 pm**

KiGirl wrote:
Malik23 wrote: The N64 game was important for many reasons. One of the early first-person shooters where you could battle your friends. It also introduced a new generation to Bond. My 7-yr-old was completely unaware of Bond until this game. Now he loves all things Bond, and sat through CR twice at the theater without making a sound.
just so you know, we did cover his eyes during the torture scene.

I wish someone had covered my eyes.

Posted: **Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:43 am**

Malik23 wrote:
KiGirl wrote:
Malik23 wrote: The N64 game was important for many reasons. One of the early first-person shooters where you could battle your friends. It also introduced a new generation to Bond. My 7-yr-old was completely unaware of Bond until this game. Now he loves all things Bond, and sat through CR twice at the theater without making a sound.
just so you know, we did cover his eyes during the torture scene.
I wish someone had covered my eyes.

you did cover your eyes...i saw you. btw, the movie is almost over. do you think you could shut up til it's over.

Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:18 am**

Official Title: Quantum of Solace

Posted: **Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:31 am**

Due for release Novenber 7!!!

Posted: **Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:45 pm**

KiGirl wrote:Official Title: Quantum of Solace

Hmm. Not as good a ring as Casino Royale.

Harbinger wrote:Due for release Novenber 7!!!

Excellent.

Posted: **Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:55 pm**

KiGirl wrote:Official Title: Quantum of Solace

Are they serious? That's the worst Bond movie title ever. Even though it's the same title as a Fleming short story.

Posted: **Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:12 pm**

Montressor wrote:
KiGirl wrote:Official Title: Quantum of Solace
Are they serious? That's the worst Bond movie title ever. Even though it's the same title as a Fleming short story.

Agreed. They could have called it at least "Golden<insert object/body part>".

Posted: **Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:09 pm**

Sounds like a Harry Potter book.

Posted: **Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:27 pm**

I like it. Two incongruent words which imply paradoxical meaning. I can think of lots of ways that might apply to this conflicted character.

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