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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:38 pm
by Menolly
Wyldewode wrote:I was going to say that I'm of Jewish ancestry (but not of ethnicity). My great grandmother was a Jacobs (and according to my grandfather some of her family were practicing Jews), but she was raised a protestant. Unfortunately she died back 1989 and we have very little information about her family. My grandfather died last September, so even that source of info is gone too.
Anyhow, though I am not Jewish in any way other than by blood (and yes, I know that technically I do not qualify since my grandmother wasn't of Jewish blood), I do have great respect for Jewish ways.
Technically, since we follow matrilineal descent, depending on if it was your grandmother or grandfather who was the child of this great-grandmother, and if it was your grandmother, if it was your maternal grandmother, then you could still be Jewish if you desire to be, ~Lyr.
...man, that even reads confusing to me...
In other words...
If your mom's mom's mom was this great grandmother, and she was born a Jew, then you would be considered a Jew.
Balon wrote:I've been listening to music in Hebrew. I LIKE it. A lot.
Cool Balon! What style or artists?
I like
Poogy and
Subliminal.
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:33 pm
by MsMary
Menolly wrote:
I like
Poogy
Do you mean
Kaveret? Because your link, above, takes me to a screensaver or something.
I love Kaveret - they were current when I was living in Israel - the band has long since broken up. The songs are funny, and even funnier if you understand Hebrew, cause many of the lyrics are plays on words.
I listen to a lot of Israeli dance music.
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:41 pm
by Wyldewode
Menolly wrote:
Technically, since we follow matrilineal descent, depending on if it was your grandmother or grandfather who was the child of this great-grandmother, and if it was your grandmother, if it was your maternal grandmother, then you could still be Jewish if you desire to be, ~Lyr.
...man, that even reads confusing to me...
In other words...
If your mom's mom's mom was this great grandmother, and she was born a Jew, then you would be considered a Jew.
No, it was my mother's father.
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:51 pm
by Menolly
MsMary wrote:Menolly wrote:
I like
Poogy
Do you mean
Kaveret? Because your link, above, takes me to a screensaver or something.
I love Kaveret - they were current when I was living in Israel - the band has long since broken up. The songs are funny, and even funnier if you understand Hebrew, cause many of the lyrics are plays on words.
I listen to a lot of Israeli dance music.
*nodding*
Yep.
One and the same.
Sorry the link isn't working.
*wondering if Syl has any favorite Israeli groups*
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:45 pm
by Linna Heartbooger
Happy Purim, folks!
(Or "Purim Sameah"? I just feel awkward saying it that way when I'm not actually familiar with what I'm saying...)
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:53 pm
by Menolly
Hag Purim Sameah, I think.
(Purim is a Hag, although like Hanukkah, not biblical in origin, right Ms.Mary?)
Todah, Lina!
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:17 pm
by MsMary
Purim Sameach is fine to say.
Purim is a fun, but minor, holiday.
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:52 am
by Linna Heartbooger
Menolly wrote:Hag Purim Sameah, I think.
(Purim is a Hag,
Which brings up an interesting point... uhh, what's a "Hag"?
menolly wrote: although like Hanukkah, not biblical in origin, right Ms.Mary?)
Todah, Lina!
FYI, Christians actually consider the book of Esther to be part of scripture! (though I was searching the bible.ort.org site you gave, and yup, couldn't find any of the words Esther/Purim/Haman in it)
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:00 pm
by Menolly
Hag is applied to major holidays, Rosh HaShannah, Yon Kippur, the first and last two days of Pesah, etc. Generally the days when we treat them similar to Shabbes, i.e, no cooking, use of electricity, etc. Neither Purim nor Hanukkah are that type of holiday, they're more festivals which is why I was hesitant if Hag is used.
Now during the intermediary days of Pesah, we say mo'adim la simcha instead of Hag Sameah. So I wonder if that is more appropriate during festivals. I really don't know offhand though...
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:29 pm
by Auleliel
Menolly wrote:Hag is applied to major holidays, Rosh HaShannah, Yon Kippur, the first and last two days of Pesah, etc. Generally the days when we treat them similar to Shabbes, i.e, no cooking, use of electricity, etc. Neither Purim nor Hanukkah are that type of holiday, they're more festivals which is why I was hesitant if Hag is used.
Now during the intermediary days of Pesah, we say mo'adim la simcha instead of Hag Sameah. So I wonder if that is more appropriate during festivals. I really don't know offhand though...
I'm really interested in learning more about this, but I didn't understand half of what was written... Could someone please explain this to me?
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:00 am
by MsMary
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:55 am
by Auleliel
Thank you.
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:48 pm
by MsMary
You are quite welcome. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:49 pm
by Auleliel
I will.
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:48 am
by Auleliel
I now have a question: What year is it? (I know why the years are different, I just don't know which year it is in the Jewish calendar...)
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:28 am
by MsMary
Today is 19th of Adar II, in the year 5768.
It's Adar II because it's a Leap Year this year in the Hebrew calendar. Every now and then we stick in a second month of Adar to bring our lunar calendar closer to the solar year.
I use
Hebcal, a Jewish calendar site to get information about the Hebrew date (and I also have Hebrew calendars hanging on my fridge.
)
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:33 pm
by Auleliel
Cool, thanks.
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:24 pm
by MsMary
Shabbat Shalom! See you tomorrow after dark!
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:37 pm
by drew
Hey.
Does not Easter coincide with Passover?
I always thought it did; but this year (an Early Easter) there was no mention of Passover.
So when IS passover this year?
I want my Ten Comandments!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:34 pm
by Menolly
drew wrote:Hey.
Does not Easter coincide with Passover?
I always thought it did; but this year (an Early Easter) there was no mention of Passover.
So when IS passover this year?
I want my Ten Comandments!!!
Same as it always is, the 15th through the 22nd of Nisan...
As Ms.Mary explained above, we are in a Jewish leap year, where we add a full extra month, Addar II, to the calendar. So this year Passover is a month later than the Roman Catholic Easter.
I am unsure when Orthodox Easter is this year, but it wouldn't surprise me if it fell closer to Passover.
First seder this year falls on sunset, April 19th.