CovenantJr wrote:I actually find that review the most useful so far, because it gives reasons as to why the various aspects of the film are good or bad, rather than just drooling fanboyishly and exclaiming that it's the best film ever made because it's more Marvel-like than the other one.
Agreed.
I'm worried about the script, as that last review made it seem quite weak overall (not surprising, considering it was penned by the same man who wrote X3: The Weakest Link).
With 9 reviews in at Rotten Tomatoes all but 2 are positive however most are filled with buts. The bulk of the "real" reviews will trickle in over the next few days. We'll see.
"If you can't tell the difference, what difference does it make?"
I guess I'm a closet fan of the TV series and didn't realize it.
The opening credits are pretty much shot-for-shot identical to the TV show. There's a great Bill Bixby cameo, and a great Lou Ferrigno cameo as well. The closing credit music from the show is used, as is Banner's blue shirt, his bag slung across his body, and The Hulk's purple pants.
And it's good, as far as summer blockbusters are concerned.
But the TV show wasn't blockbuster material. It was an incredibly sad story about a man trying to tame his inner demons so he could go home. There's a little of that in the film, but it falls back on action set pieces too often for my taste.
If you've never seen the show, you'll probably love the movie. Me....I'm contemplating getting the series on DVD.
Edit-The more I think about it, the more impressed I am with Bixby's portrayal of Banner. I've never picked up the comic, so I can't comment on how accurate either Bixby's or Norton's performances are, but his work with the material on TV was (to me) far superior than Norton's in this noisy summer movie.
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I thought the movie was excellent; lightyears beyond the 2003 film (not saying much, but still), and a pretty faithful adaptation, I think, to the comics. The fight scenes were incredible (Abomination >>> Iron Monger); I thought Banner's story was presented as suitably tragic and Edward Norton's performance made him very human; and I loved William Hurt as Gen. "Thunderbolt" Ross. Spoiler
Cail wrote:Edit-The more I think about it, the more impressed I am with Bixby's portrayal of Banner. I've never picked up the comic, so I can't comment on how accurate either Bixby's or Norton's performances are, but his work with the material on TV was (to me) far superior than Norton's in this noisy summer movie.
Loved Bill Bixby as Banner. But I have never read the comic, and have seen neither movie. We'll probably go after I return from Denver. This week will be Indy4, after Beorn is at FIL's.
Is the Bixby cameo obvious? I am assuming it is from a previous role, since he died so long ago...
You're around my age IIRC. Yeah, you'll get it instantly.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Cail wrote: The more I think about it, the more impressed I am with Bixby's portrayal of Banner. I've never picked up the comic, so I can't comment on how accurate either Bixby's or Norton's performances are, but his work with the material on TV was (to me) far superior than Norton's in this noisy summer movie.
Bixby captured the essential '70's comic Bannor, sans the drama; he actually did a better job in many ways tham the comic writers.
If you really want to read some wierd bannor shit, get a copy of Marvel Masterworks Vol. 8, which reprints the original 6 issue Hulk run. Bannor's character is way different; way more cocky and self-assured. He's like a cross between Nick Fury and Reed Richards. He's not really trying to cure himself; he frequently bombards himself with gamma radiation in order to turn into the Hulk. He knows the Hulk is an uncontrollable monster, but he thinks he's totally in control.
Dandelion don't tell no lies
Dandelion will make you wise
Tell me if she laughs or cries
Blow away dandelion
I'm afraid there's no denying
I'm just a dandelion
a fate I don't deserve.
Saw this today. My early opinion that Norton is wrong for this role is IMO justified. He's no more Bannor than I am Ferrigno. There was no chemistry between Norton and Liv Tyler, but who the hell cares anyway? Why does every frickin' movie have to be a more about the love story than the main story?
The fight scene was just OK. I thought he defeated Abomination too easily.
This is definitely better than the first Hulk movie, but only slightly so.
dlbpharmd wrote:Saw this today. My early opinion that Norton is wrong for this role is IMO justified. He's no more Bannor than I am Ferrigno. There was no chemistry between Norton and Liv Tyler, but who the hell cares anyway? Why does every frickin' movie have to be a more about the love story than the main story?
Good point. And even more to the point, how the Hell does Liv Tyler keep working? She's hideously unattractive, and she's a horrible actress.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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dlbpharmd wrote:Saw this today. My early opinion that Norton is wrong for this role is IMO justified. He's no more Bannor than I am Ferrigno. There was no chemistry between Norton and Liv Tyler, but who the hell cares anyway? Why does every frickin' movie have to be a more about the love story than the main story?
Good point. And even more to the point, how the Hell does Liv Tyler keep working? She's hideously unattractive, and she's a horrible actress.
Hell if I know. I certainly agree that she's not pretty at all.
10 years ago she was still ugly. Fercryinoutloud, she looks exactly like her father!
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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I think Liv is pretty, but not especially sexy. I like the ethereal quality her voice has. She was very well cast as an elven princess. And she did a pretty good job as comic-book-hero's-love-interest.
Jennifer Connolly is of course gorgeous, in that "damn sexy" way, even though she never really got the chance to flaunt it in the Ang Lee movie.