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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:56 am
by SGuilfoyle1966
peter wrote:DukkhaWaynhim wrote: Regarding Sunbane fertility - take something good, break it horrifically, and give it back. That's the essence of Lord Foul, because it engenders despair. Uncontrolled growth/fertility is known to us on Earth as cancer.
dw
I get this DukkaWaynhim, but what I was refering to was 'fertility' in the original list as one of the Seven Hells. To me it just doesn't seem to square with the others on the list.
Fertility as a hell? I think anyone who has watched Jon & Kate plus Eight would get the idea. Or the OctoMom.
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:42 pm
by Earthfriend
wayfriend wrote:... indeed, if the Land had been destroyed, it would have been counter to Foul's plans. Foul needed the Land to be miserable, but not dead, in order to manipulate Covenant.
yes, something broken to give back to him. I agree, wayfriend.
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:48 pm
by Blackhawk
SGuilfoyle1966 wrote:peter wrote:DukkhaWaynhim wrote: Regarding Sunbane fertility - take something good, break it horrifically, and give it back. That's the essence of Lord Foul, because it engenders despair. Uncontrolled growth/fertility is known to us on Earth as cancer.
dw
I get this DukkaWaynhim, but what I was refering to was 'fertility' in the original list as one of the Seven Hells. To me it just doesn't seem to square with the others on the list.
Fertility as a hell? I think anyone who has watched Jon & Kate plus Eight would get the idea. Or the OctoMom.
gives a new thought to being caught out in a sun of fertility without stone to stand on.... imagine a pregnancy taking place in a matter of minutes rather than 9 months... i would rather suffer Marids Fate.
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:40 pm
by Relayer
Have you read the Gap?
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:14 am
by Thorhammerhand
Fertility could be a hell, think for a moment as a Land-person.
Lack of fertile suns would result in starvation. Sure the shedding of several of your town mates may provide temporary relief but there is no way that several acres of crops/fodder would keep a village going without fertility to bolster your food supplies. (Further, not in Foul's plan though, what happens when LA melds the Sunbane into the 'normal' sun?)
Second to that is the factor of slowing fleeing villagers if they ever turned on the Clave.
However, I concur that the primary aim of the sun of fertility was to give back something broken to the land, as was the sun of rain.
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:28 am
by peter
I think it was more than this Thor - without rain and fertility the continued existence of the people in the Land would be untenable. Donaldson HAD to introduce some way that the continued existance of the people would be believable, hence he gave rain and fertility - but in a distorted way that would conform to his nightmare vision of the sunbane.