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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:40 pm
by thewormoftheworld'send
As for Elena being the one to grant Troy the power of command (the highest rank in the eoward), certainly not all but many high lords would have done the same thing. But I find more meaning in Troy's blindness as a metaphor for the pride that blinded him.

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:07 pm
by Relayer
wayfriend wrote:It seems to me that Donaldson must have intentionally put a message in here for us somewhere. Perhaps the message is, whether your Power of Command comes from Earthroot itself, or it's just from being responsible, you cannot foresee all ends of your actions. And a fair amount of experience is needed to even think about playing in the game.
I think this also relates to the many different ways Donaldson points out the consequences of unearned knowledge.

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:32 pm
by Vraith
Relayer wrote:
wayfriend wrote:It seems to me that Donaldson must have intentionally put a message in here for us somewhere. Perhaps the message is, whether your Power of Command comes from Earthroot itself, or it's just from being responsible, you cannot foresee all ends of your actions. And a fair amount of experience is needed to even think about playing in the game.
I think this also relates to the many different ways Donaldson points out the consequences of unearned knowledge.
yea...both undecidability and unearned knowledge pop up in other places. But SRD is the only one I know of that has done both at once, and made them both truly important, not just a "plot hook." Choice is another one he elvevated a bit: any number of works deal with the results/effects of choices, whether char's. had a choice or not, but rarely [a few are around] with the necessity of freedom/choice as a basis.

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:46 am
by thewormoftheworld'send
Vraith wrote:
Relayer wrote:
wayfriend wrote:It seems to me that Donaldson must have intentionally put a message in here for us somewhere. Perhaps the message is, whether your Power of Command comes from Earthroot itself, or it's just from being responsible, you cannot foresee all ends of your actions. And a fair amount of experience is needed to even think about playing in the game.
I think this also relates to the many different ways Donaldson points out the consequences of unearned knowledge.
yea...both undecidability and unearned knowledge pop up in other places. But SRD is the only one I know of that has done both at once, and made them both truly important, not just a "plot hook." Choice is another one he elvevated a bit: any number of works deal with the results/effects of choices, whether char's. had a choice or not, but rarely [a few are around] with the necessity of freedom/choice as a basis.
Now if only someone would explain what Troy's unearned knowledge consisted of. :) And how it relates to his power of command position in the eoward.

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:15 pm
by ninjaboy
Back to the Elohim..
What could they need it FOR?
They generally have little to no apparent interest in what's going on in the world, unless it is a threat to their existence.