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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:54 pm
by dANdeLION
Fist and Faith wrote:I like the first two movies. Very, very unimpressed with everything after. I doubt I'll ever see this in any format, and certainly won't go see it in the theater.
I liked the 1st two movies when I was a kid, but they don't hold up today, especially the 2nd movie.
Superman Returns was enjoyable, but I didn't really like the parts where he was doing the peeping tom bit with Lois.
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:21 am
by DukkhaWaynhim
Kate Bosworth ruined that movie for me. Pretty, I suppose, but the worst Lois Lane I have ever seen. I would have preferred to see Noel Neill at her current age playing the role than the travesty that was Kate.
dw
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:38 pm
by dlbpharmd
DukkhaWaynhim wrote:Kate Bosworth ruined that movie for me. Pretty, I suppose, but the worst Lois Lane I have ever seen. I would have preferred to see Noel Neill at her current age playing the role than the travesty that was Kate.
dw
Completely agree about Kate. Margot Kidder was also horrible.
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:35 pm
by dANdeLION
Kate didn't bother me; at least she wasn't 15 years older than the character she was playing (Margo)!
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:59 am
by finn
I agree they don't quite get it, I always remember that Supes is from a small town, grew up on a farm, and is 'at odds' with the city life....they sort of got that with Christopher Reeves' Superman, but screwed up wth rest (imo). As such the metro-man is really odd; his background should produce an educated red-neck! I can see an 11 year old trying to pick off a bird on a wire at 5 miles with a blast of heat vision, peeking at the girls in the showers at 14 and seriously getting pissed with the ME or the Commies!
I think maybe they should give this to Stallone to direct!
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:51 pm
by dlbpharmd
Agree with Finn - I've always thought Reeve made a good Clark Kent but so-so Superman.
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:27 am
by Sunbaneglasses
If I find out that the name Lex Luthor is even mentioned in a new Supes film I'm staying my ass at the house.
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:16 am
by Orlion
Sunbaneglasses wrote:If I find out that the name Lex Luthor is even mentioned in a new Supes film I'm staying my ass at the house.
Tell it, preacher!

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:44 am
by Lord Zombiac
superman = clean cut & wholesome.
Give me a teen raping leper any day over that prick!
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:20 pm
by DukkhaWaynhim
Oh, haven't you heard?
Superman is a dick
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:49 am
by Lord Zombiac
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:08 pm
by Hashi Lebwohl
Hollywood simply doesn't know how to write superhero or supervillain stories, even when the comic book companies themselves are in charge of the project and the screenplay writers are comic book fans.
If I am a supervillain and my goal is to remove Superman then I get hold of some kryptonite (as usual), expose him to it thereby weakening him, then I pull out my Metal Storm handgun (these are real, by the way, and shoot electomagnetically-propelled slugs in groups of 3) enough times in the chest and head to make sure.
Failing that, I obtain a telepath and reveal all the hero's secrets. All of them.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:47 pm
by sgt.null
the telepath thing should work. there are plenty running around the DC Universe. even if you buy that Batman is shielded - he has told his identity to how many people? hell Booster Gold should know all the big gun's ids. beat him up - take of the LSH ring and you have all the info you need.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:53 pm
by Orlion
Hold on... if Superman's powers come from the Sun, then wouldn't getting him deep underground theoretically take away his powers? You know, get into a mind shaft, he searches for you, by the time he gets to you, he's not getting any Sun energy that wasn't available on Krypton, he's used up a bit of energy he has, and he'll probably try to talk you out of whatever long enough to weaken further, and BLAM! He's like us. Then you beat him up with a shovel and make a punny remark about the shaft being his tomb. Then, just when you're about to deal the final blow, Batman would have arrived by then to kick your ass and save Superman... again... 'cuz Batman's awesome.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:37 pm
by sgt.null
Orlion wrote: Batman would have arrived by then to kick your ass and save Superman... again... 'cuz Batman's awesome.

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:17 am
by finn
Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Hollywood simply doesn't know how to write superhero or supervillain stories, even when the comic book companies themselves are in charge of the project and the screenplay writers are comic book fans.
If I am a supervillain and my goal is to remove Superman then I get hold of some kryptonite (as usual), expose him to it thereby weakening him, then I pull out my Metal Storm handgun (these are real, by the way, and shoot electomagnetically-propelled slugs in groups of 3) enough times in the chest and head to make sure.
Failing that, I obtain a telepath and reveal all the hero's secrets. All of them.
I think we have to remember that a lot of these were written and created at a time when Saturday morning flicks demanded that any villain worth his salt didn't simply shoot the hero, no! He had to lavish his plan on him show off his methods and timing then leave the hero tied up waiting for a train, or mechanical saw, or a laser beam aimed at his groin, to kill him.
If I were Lex Luther and has Supes down and out with Kryptonite (or sun deprevation in a
mind shaft?......Cool!

) I'd be thinking a bullet to the heart/head, amputate limbs and head and do a Dexter, keeping the suit (which I assume would also lose its invulnerability to tearing).....but I think the franchisees would have a problem with that!
As for telling his secrects maybe we can call on Captain Assange to disseminate said secret (but not top secret) identity.....his out of hours habits with the girlies might even keep Lord Zombiac rivetted!
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:11 pm
by Hashi Lebwohl
I know exactly what you mean--we can't have real villainy being presented to little children because it might damage them.
Back on the old Heroes forum of which I was a member, my favorite tactic for getting rid of superheroes was a .50-caliber rifle from 350 yards away. All you have to do is lure the hero to the chosen spot then get him to stand still just long enough for the sniper to aim and fire. This is what monologues are for, don't you know?
When my villain says to the hero, "a-ha! Now I have you right where I want you" as part of a monologue, he means it literally.