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In the Gradual Interview, Stephen R Donaldson wrote:In the most literal sense, death in the "real world" for a character like Hile Troy, or Thomas Covenant, simply means that character can no longer return to his/her "real" life. [...] In the "real world," Troy's body suffered literal death not long after his accident.
(11/21/2004)
I've always operated under the assumption that Troy died in his fire *before* Atiaran died in hers.
(07/22/2006)
He does try to call the military, but they give him the run around.Akasri wrote:
I am approaching the end of ILW as well, and I can't remember if this actually happened or if we just discussed it here, but in TPTP, does TC try to look up to see of Hile Troy actually existed?
Troy was already dead in the "real world," so wasn't able to go back.Aiden Victore wrote:He does try to call the military, but they give him the run around.Akasri wrote:
I am approaching the end of ILW as well, and I can't remember if this actually happened or if we just discussed it here, but in TPTP, does TC try to look up to see of Hile Troy actually existed?
And I don't mind myself about spoilers regarding this, so if there is a passage that references what really did happen to Troy in real life, please point me to it
But either way, it still leaves me questioning the relationship between the summoner and the summoned. How is it that TC is kicked back to our world after Drool and Elena die, but Troy stays after Atrian dies?
Yeah, I'd look at it more as a sort of 'tug of war'. A summoner is able to hold on to the soul, and when the summoner is weakened too much/killed, the real world (the body) is able to tug back (you'll see some of this in the Power that Preserves).dlbpharmd wrote:Troy was already dead in the "real world," so wasn't able to go back.Aiden Victore wrote:He does try to call the military, but they give him the run around.Akasri wrote:
I am approaching the end of ILW as well, and I can't remember if this actually happened or if we just discussed it here, but in TPTP, does TC try to look up to see of Hile Troy actually existed?
And I don't mind myself about spoilers regarding this, so if there is a passage that references what really did happen to Troy in real life, please point me to it
But either way, it still leaves me questioning the relationship between the summoner and the summoned. How is it that TC is kicked back to our world after Drool and Elena die, but Troy stays after Atrian dies?