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sgt.null wrote:it has Matt Damon, always a good start.
Although we seem to spend a ridiculous amount of money trying to bring him home... Saving Private Ryan, Interstellar, The Martian... This guy needs to stop getting stranded.

On a side note, that last scene that he's in gave me quite a start... He looks like an adult now! He's always seemed so boyish, even in movies like Bourne or that awful one about the CIA, but here he just looks... mature. He finally grow'd up.

Anyway, back to the movie, as compared to the book: I really didn't mind any of the cuts they made, plot-wise. Everything just worked. There wasn't perhaps as much tension as there could have been, but they did what they could.

Most of the tension in the story doesn't come from wondering if (or how) Watney's going to survive, but rather which risks people are willing to take. In that regard, Jeff Daniels' character (the director of NASA) came off much more sympathetic than I expected him to. It's easy to villainize the administrator, someone who has to make tough calls about acceptable risks, but the movie didn't go that route. He made hard decisions, he explained his reasoning, and he also took the blame when things went wrong. I would have liked more of that, since everything else in the movie is pretty straightforward and conflict-free.

As for the science itself, everything seems pretty good. The flyby/catch at the end was a bit sensational, but not overly unrealistic. I do see the problem with the storms on Mars; the very first one was a gimme in the book, necessary just to set up the plot, but the movie kept them recurring throughout just to add tension.

I'm also glad they kept god and faith out of the movie. There's no hint of it in the book, but popular movies about survival almost always include some kind of higher power or learning to believe or some such bull****. There was none of that, which is refreshing. It's just a person deciding not to give up, and then working through their problems one at a time.

Overall, it wasn't a masterpiece, but it certainly is the best Scott movie I've seen in a while, going back at least to American Gangster or Matchstick Men. It's nice to enjoy a Ridley Scott movie again.

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Oh, and I forgot how much fun it is to see a movie in the theater. No matter how big your TV is, the theater is the way to go.
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Post by kevinswatch »

The movie was good. The book was better.

Half of the fun of the book was Mark Watney's snarky and nerdy jokes. The movie needed more of that.

Matt Damon was a great choice for the role, though.

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I watched the film last night. It's very watchable and good fun (it actually has at least one laugh-out-loud scene (when he's trying to make water using hydrogen). Well, I laughed anyway! :lol:). The storm scene at the start didn't bother me (although I did ask myself the question, why would you set up that way on a planet prone to such fierce storms? Would you not have guy lines etc.?). The rest of the film stayed fairly realistic until the rescue scene at the very end, when it became a bit cartoonish. (Also, why were some of the astronauts EVA-ing without tethers? :? )

I did think that the film overplayed the wonderfulness of science a bit too much. Science works if you have the resources, knowledge and endurance, it is not some sort of miraculous cure-all, and sciencing-the-shit out of a problem won't matter one whit if there is no actual practical/physical solution. At that point it is as useful to pray as it is to calculate. (There was also just a hint of McGyver-in-space about some of it, not that that's necessarily a bad thing!)

I enjoyed the film but I'm not sure why it's getting the rave reviews it currently is. Maybe it has to do with the actual possibility of there being a real misson to Mars within our lifetime. (Although the Mars One project seems to have turned out to be a scam, NASA's Orion project, planning to get people to Mars by 2035, looks much more realistic.

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