Kevin's Watch

I vote for texas. From a non american pov it seems to me that texas is the most 'hic' state in the US. (No dis to anyone from there intended)

Only clue I can remember - he said he went "down to Lousiana" to the leprosarium. I agree its not the south then - Also, its hilly, so not Ohio, Indiana or something, so I vote for ..... Vermont

Well, that's thinking about the phrase "down to" from a northerner's point of view. Texans go "down to" just about everywhere. I'm going "down to" the store. I'm going "down to" Canada. Geographical location or relative closeness means little from what I know of Texans.

My impression (for no known reason) was that he was living in either Vermont or Conn.
But then again, what do I know?
I had never been to New England.

I always thought some place in the southeast, Louisiana or Mississippi.

I would say upstate New York. I used to live there, and from my house we could walk right back into the woods, walk to farms, and see all sorts of animals. I would imagine that though I didn't find a rattlesnake, I could if I tried.

but did you live in the part of NY that has that particular variety of rattlesnake? did you check the map of doom?!

I can assure you, I checked that map like nobody's business.

I am from New Hampshire, and I haven't seen any surly halfhanded individuals up here. So we can rule out New Hampshire.

Also texas. TC says "Hellfire and damnation!" not "Hellfire and tarnation!"

Two down, the rest to go.

I always pictured Missouri or Arkansas for some reason. I think it's just that they're close to Louisianna... Also I remember reading there actually was an actual leper colony in Louisianna or some state nearby.

I was a fan of the Texas, Maryland or Pennsylvania theorys-especially Pennsy since there is a Righter's Mill near Pennsbury. Bit after SRD's comments on the website about Haven Farm being, somewhat, modeled after a, now destroyed, farm near Kent, Ohio it is...

Southwest Virginians (I was one until age eighteen) go "down to" anything south of them, such as east Tennessee on interstate 81.

If Andelain is in Ohio and all the eastern "bad" places are in the Northeast (admittedly, seeing how people drive in CT, it's a temptation), that puts the Westron Mtns. in the Rockies...

Another clue overlooked so far:

Where would someone be likely to stumble over a good old fashioned bible-thumping born-again under-a-tent pah-rayer meeting?

What were those bouncers names? I think there might be a clue there, too.

BTW, I've lived in the woods of New England all my life and I've never heard of anyone encountering a rattlesnake.

So I'm voting with the Ohio faction. I definitely think it's bible-belt, but we need forests and hills, too.

-- Wayfriend

My only problem with Ohio as Andelain is that I can't think of any part of it that would qualify. Down near Cincinnati, maybe -- it's hilly there. But Southern Indiana is also hilly. Maybe Andelain is really Brown County, Indiana. Hmmm, that has possibilities....

Dukka! My fellow Hoosier! Are you above or below the greasy-"greezy" line (US 30, to the uninitiated)?

aliantha (who grew up in the Region, sort of)

aliantha wrote:My only problem with Ohio as Andelain is that I can't think of any part of it that would qualify. Down near Cincinnati, maybe -- it's hilly there. But Southern Indiana is also hilly. Maybe Andelain is really Brown County, Indiana. Hmmm, that has possibilities....

Dukka! My fellow Hoosier! Are you above or below the greasy-"greezy" line (US 30, to the uninitiated)?

aliantha (who grew up in the Region, sort of)

Southeast Ohio is very hilly. So is Cincy. I live In Dayton, which is an Hour North of Cincinati. There aren't too many rattlesnakes in Ohio though. I'd say Tennesse or West Virginia for the Haven Farm Location.

Byrn wrote:I'd say Tennesse or West Virginia for the Haven Farm Location.

I just remembered that Joan Covenant had been a horse-trainer by profession. Might Haven Farm have been in the Bluegrass area of Kentucky?

aliantha wrote:My only problem with Ohio as Andelain is that I can't think of any part of it that would qualify. Down near Cincinnati, maybe -- it's hilly there. But Southern Indiana is also hilly. Maybe Andelain is really Brown County, Indiana. Hmmm, that has possibilities....

Dukka! My fellow Hoosier! Are you above or below the greasy-"greezy" line (US 30, to the uninitiated)?

aliantha (who grew up in the Region, sort of)

I'm in Indianapolis, which is about an hour north of Brown County, IN. [I'm originally from Southern Indiana, tho, so I have first-hand knowledge of the hills, forests, and rattlesnakes in the area]. Knowing that Donaldson spent some time in Ohio, I've always thought of the Midwest when imagining the 'real world' of the TC books. Wishful thinking? We definitely have the tent-revival types here in Indiana, though they tend to build their own warehouse-like churches in these modern times.


DW

My old stompin' grounds! I went to college in Bloomington and had numerous friends in Indy (all of whom have moved on now). One of my friends had an apartment in Speedway; she talked about renting it out by the square foot over Memorial Day weekend, but she never did it.

The fact that it is Haven Farm has always seemed rather significant to me. If it were anywhere west of an invisible line that runs somewhere in Missourri and Arkansas and the eastern Great Plains, it would be a ranch. In Texas, for example, an acreage where you raise/train horses would be a ranch.

So we are talking a place where an acreage where horses live is called a farm, somewhere north of Louisianna, an area where there are "hill people" living somewhere nearby, where they have tent revivals, where there are rattlesnakes...and where it has been economically depressed for what sounds like decades. Could be the lower Midwest (Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois are all hilly, though I do have not ever heard anyone who lives there called a "hill person"), rural New England, New York, or Pennsylvania...or somewhere near the Appalacians or Ozarks, though the Ozarks are getting into what could be called ranch country. For some reason, I have always thought Kentucky, Tennessee, the Virginias, or the Carolinas...

Well, Texas is definitely out of the running. If Covenant had been from Texas he would have said so. He also would not have been so wimpy. He would have been the baddest leper here or in the land, and would have known it. Foul wouldn't laugh at him either. And just for those unfamiliar with Texas there are several states that have WAY more hicks than Texas. Arkansas or Oklahoma spring to mind just to name two.

Sivit

Doan' dutch meh.