Kevin's Watch

Posted: **Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:52 pm**

Usivius wrote:nice review, Foul, except for your 'pot' reference.

My pot reference was pointing toward the nature of the music, rather than any drug-taking by the actual musicians themselves. Essentially, I meant that long, rambling jams were a norm in 70s music, rather than the tighter, more single-based material of the 80s.

Posted: **Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:43 pm**

.... oh....
nevermind....

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:01 am**

hey Usivius...as my compadre in Crimson you should DEFINITELY run out RIGHT NOW and buy the dvd of Eyes Wide Open!!!!!

UN-FREAKIN-BELIEVABLE!!! amazing to watch these guys play.

it's all music from Power to Believe and Construcktion of Light. 2 discs just LOADED with extraordinary music!! even some improve jam footage that's killer!!!

you gotta get it man.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:14 pm**

Thanks Lucimay. I'm on the Inner Knot mailing list so I get updated on products, etc. I heard about this a couple of months ago and eagerly wish to pick it up. Thanks for the review. Although missing my guy, Bruford, these guys really picked it up in Power to Believe --- showed me that they were actually a good band despite the absence of powerhouses Bruford and Levin. 'Cause the album before 'Power' (can't remember the title --- must be subconsciously putting it out of my mind. edit: Construction of Light) really was not goot at all. I think it is near the bottom of my Crimso list near 'Islands'.

Lucymay, what other Crimso DVD/videos do you have? I have the 80's 'Live in Japan' and (the one before it --- memory failing) 'Discipline' Live?... Also Deja Vroom (great one with fantastic extras!!!!)

Have you ever visited the Discipline Global Mobile site. Great selection of never heard Crimso, especially (my favourite) live improvisations and studio ideas that never made it on any album.
If you ever want me to send a sample, PM me and I can burn some stuff on a CD for ya

TTFN

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:03 pm**

Usivius wrote:Thanks Lucimay. I'm on the Inner Knot mailing list so I get updated on products, etc. I heard about this a couple of months ago and eagerly wish to pick it up. Thanks for the review. Although missing my guy, Bruford, these guys really picked it up in Power to Believe --- showed me that they were actually a good band despite the absence of powerhouses Bruford and Levin. 'Cause the album before 'Power' (can't remember the title --- must be subconsciously putting it out of my mind. edit: Construction of Light) really was not goot at all. I think it is near the bottom of my Crimso list near 'Islands'.

i LOVE this line up. Belew is a MONSTER on guitar and vocals and during the concert Fripp just stands in the shadows with an evil little bemused grin on his face and plays his *ss off!! Trey Gunn plays the weirdest looking bass i've ever seen, has a double-wide neck (NOT two necks, double-WIDE) and i believe it's got 12 strings and is strung with the heaviest strings in the center and the higher strings radiating out)!!! he's effectively playing guitar and bass at the same time!! and as for missing Bruford...i gotta tell ya...Pat Mastelotto is AWESOME. this lineup isn't missing a THING!! just brilliant!!

Usivius wrote:Lucymay, what other Crimso DVD/videos do you have? I have the 80's 'Live in Japan' and (the one before it --- memory failing) 'Discipline' Live?... Also Deja Vroom (great one with fantastic extras!!!!)

i have NO other Crimson dvds!!! i actually hadn't listened to Crimson in a pretty long time when Power to Believe came out. my husband demanded to have it (he is a guitarist and major Fripp fan) so i bought it!! so i guess you could say i've only recently gotten back into them!

Usivius wrote:Have you ever visited the Discipline Global Mobile site. Great selection of never heard Crimson, especially (my favourite) live improvisations and studio ideas that never made it on any album.

i've never been there but will check it out this evening after work! there's some GREAT improv on the Eyes Wide Open dvd!!! how many times can i say BRILLIANT and BEAUTIFUL!!

Usiviu wrote:If you ever want me to send a sample, PM me and I can burn some stuff on a CD for ya

TTFN

THANKS!! you're a pal!! i'll pm you this evening!!

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:42 pm**

Lucimay wrote:hey Usivius...as my compadre in Crimson you should DEFINITELY run out RIGHT NOW and buy the dvd of Eyes Wide Open!!!!!

UN-FREAKIN-BELIEVABLE!!! amazing to watch these guys play.

it's all music from Power to Believe and Construcktion of Light. 2 discs just LOADED with extraordinary music!! even some improve jam footage that's killer!!!

you gotta get it man.

Wasn't it awesome to see Belew playing "Three of a Perfect Pair" on that acoustic?

Oh, and don't forget "Ladies of the Road," which is Crimson's 80s DVD (who are far superior to the later incarnations of the band, in my never-so-humble opinion).

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:57 pm**

I'm with you. I think the 80's version was the best overall version of Crimso. The 72-74 lineup had the most raw power and meanness (is that a word?) and the best improv stuff.
The newest lineup finally brings Crimso a step forward, out of repetition (not all the way like the 80's version did, but a nice step away). I would like the new Crimso lineup to do more stuff that were on the Prokekt 4 album...

Posted: **Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:03 pm**

I picked up Court of the Crimson King on cd yesterday....wow; it's been a long time since I heard the title track (I think I was a little kid last time I heard it); I forgot Lake was ever in the band! Anyway, it's an awesome cd.

Posted: **Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:06 am**

One More Red Nightmare

robert fripp / john wetton

Pan American nightmare
Ten thousand feet fun-fair
Convinved that I don't care
It's safe as houses I swear
I was just sitting musing
The virtues of cruising
When altitude dropping
My ears started popping
One more red nightmare

Sweat beginning to pour down
My neck as I turn round
I heard fortune shouting
Just get off of this outing
A farewell swan song
See you know how turbulence can be
The stewardess made me
One more red nightmare

Reality stirred me
My angel had heard me
The prayer had been answered
A reprieve has been granted
The dream was now broken
Thought rudely awoken
Really safe and sound
Asleep on the Greyhound
One more red nightmare

Line up

ROBERT FRIPP - Guitar and mellotron
JOHN WETTON - Bass and voice
WILLIAM BRUFORD - Precussives
DAVID CROSS - Violin
MEL COLLINS - Soprano saxophone
IAN McDONALD - Alto saxophone
ROBIN MILLER - Oboe
MARC CHARIG - Cornet

Tracks

Red 6:16
(Fripp)

Fallen angel 5:58
(Fripp, Wetton, Palmer-James)

One more red nightmare 7:07
(Fripp, Wetton)

Providence 8:06
(Cross, Fripp, Wetton, Bruford)

Starless 12:18
(Cross, Fripp, Wetton, Palmer-James)

1974

Posted: **Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:42 am**

Yep, Starless is still my favorite song. I want them to play it at my funeral. They'll know what a nut I was then!

Posted: **Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:00 pm**

Trey Gunn plays the weirdest looking bass i've ever seen, has a double-wide neck (NOT two necks, double-WIDE) and i believe it's got 12 strings and is strung with the heaviest strings in the center and the higher strings radiating out)!!!

Sounds like a stick bass. I think that's what he usually plays. www.stick.com/articles/sb8/

Or could be a Warr guitar. I haven't seen that DVD. www.warrguitars.com/WarrRSS/Warr%20Guitars.html

I've got the deja VROOM DVD. Nice songlist, my favorite line-up (the THRAK tour). But the sound quality is horrible. The Dolby Digital and DTS mixes both sound like matrixed Dolby Pro Logic or some artificial DSP surround effect. Just horrible. I really need to get some more Crimson DVDs.

Posted: **Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:55 pm**

Malik23 wrote:
Trey Gunn plays the weirdest looking bass i've ever seen, has a double-wide neck (NOT two necks, double-WIDE) and i believe it's got 12 strings and is strung with the heaviest strings in the center and the higher strings radiating out)!!!
Sounds like a stick bass. I think that's what he usually plays. www.stick.com/articles/sb8/

yeah...since i posted that i actually found out what they were. but thanks!

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:28 am**

dANdeLION wrote:I picked up Court of the Crimson King on cd yesterday....wow; it's been a long time since I heard the title track (I think I was a little kid last time I heard it); I forgot Lake was ever in the band! Anyway, it's an awesome cd.

Greg Lake played bass, sung and shared the major writing credits with among others Pete Sinfield who no-one has yet mentioned. Sinfield lyrics really created a feel for the music that Yes, much as I love them, never really had. Anderson's lyrics ranged from psued to complete nonsense, using words which evoked, rather than hung together with any congruence. Lake also sung and played some bass on Wake of Poseiden which enjoyed Sinfield's lyrics and the brilliant Mel Collins; Cadence and Cascade is still a favourite of mine.

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:49 am**

danlo wrote:Yes the intertwinings of these great musicians like Anderson, Lake and Bruford through King Crimson's stuff is fascinating, Fripp is a serious genius. Everytime I hear Epitaph I have to shake my head and say, "...no...wait...that's not Emerson, Lake and Palmer-that's King Crimson!" (I even liked some of Keith Emerson's early stuff with The Nice and Carl Palmer with Atomic Rooster--that stuff goes back to my sister's generation! )

Loved ELP as they brought together the roots of three favourite bands. First album I ever bought was the Nice's Three Bridges Suite, second was Elegy. Played Death Walks Behind You and all Crimso to death.

Watched ELP several times, always a mind blowing show, there's a newish double DVD set out about them, a lots dated now but at the time they were the bleeding edge doing stuff no-one else had tried.

The Nice recently did a re-union gig in Scotland (2002? I think) and there's a live album out on CD, iffy recording tho'.

In the early eighties my band actually played main support for Atomic Rooster when they came to town. They'd reformed without Carl Palmer, it seemed due to being broke and needing something more to put up their noses. We got an encore that night and they didn't, being local had something to do with that but more it was that they really were shadows of what they had been. Back stage they were also rude, obnoxious, tossers as well and I've not played their stuff since...shame really.

Actually had Emerson in our audience once, left before the end though, I was well upset.................................I never left before the end for his gigs and I paid!

Posted: **Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:45 am**

Happy with What You Have to Be Happy With

most brilliant metal lyric ever

Posted: **Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:33 pm**

And when I have some words
This is the way I'll sing
Through a distortion box
To make them menacing

Yeah, then I'm gonna have to write a chorus
We're gonna need to have a chorus
And this would seem to be as good as any other place to sing it till I'm blue in the face

And for a second verse
Of terse economy
I'll brew another pot
Of ambiguity

Then I'm gonna have to write a chorus
We're gonna need to have a chorus
And this would seem to be as good as any other place to sing it till I'm blue in the face
Yes, we're gonna need to have a chorus
I'm gonna have to write a chorus
And this would seem to be as good as any other place to sing it till I'm blue in the face

Happy with what you have to be happy with
you have to be happy with what you have
to be happy with what you have,
happy with what you have to be happy with
you have to be happy with what you have
to be happy with what you have
you have to be happy with what you have to be happy with

Then I guess I'll repeat the chorus!
We're gonna repeat the chorus!
I guess I'll repeat the chorus!
We're gonna repeat the chorus!
Then I guess I'll repeat the chorus!
We're gonna repeat the chorus!
I guess I'll repeat the chorus!
We're gonna repeat the chorus!

Happy with what you have to be happy with
you have to be happy with what you have
to be happy with what you have
happy with what you have to be happy with
you have to be happy with what you have
to be happy with what you have
you have to be happy with what you have to be happy with

Love it. Of course it loses something when you can't hear the kick*ss guitars and such, but great stuff. A little poke in the eye...

Posted: **Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:40 pm**

dude, Usivius...

you CAN hear the kick*ss guitars. that title is a link.

Posted: **Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:09 pm**

I'm so happy with what I'm happy with, which, at this point, is the new 'split thread' function!

Posted: **Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:17 pm**

Yeah, what dAN said.

Posted: **Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:48 pm**

you CAN hear the kick*ss guitars. that title is a link

sorry, i'm at work. It gets blocked ...

Why are you two putting prog in the metal thread? I made a perfectly good prog thread; quit spamming the metal thread!

and to dan and cail ... Crimso is known as a prog band, true. However they have not really been prog since 1971. Since 1972 they have been one of the hardest, kick-*ssenest bands around.

listen to these:
Lark's Tongues in Aspic Part 1 & 2
Thrak (off the Vroom EP)

Crimson perhaps cannot be called "metal", but there are a bunch of metal bands that could learn a thing or two...

Okokokok ... let me validate my post somewhat ...

Great metal band: Godflesh.
there.