Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 3:56 pm
I disagree
You disagree with... ?Isildurs Bane wrote:I disagree
I think Pitchwife was one of the finer characters in the second chronicles. He was loyal, resourceful, and always of good cheer.
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:53 am
I think Pitchwife was one of the finer characters in the second chronicles. He was loyal, resourceful, and always of good cheer.
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 5:26 pm
I thought Pitchwife was great myself.
It was neat how he was the only one in the quest-other than TC himself-that liked Linden.
It was neat how he was the only one in the quest-other than TC himself-that liked Linden.
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 9:25 am
HAHAHAHAHA!! Good one Drew, I never caught that before...drew wrote:I thought Pitchwife was great myself.
It was neat how he was the only one in the quest-other than TC himself-that liked Linden.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:50 pm
Nom>Vain
That would be an awesome battle though
That would be an awesome battle though
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:04 pm
My money's on Nom.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:08 pm
I'd go with Vain - Nom would approach him, Vain would make a clawing gesture, and Nom's head would be ripped off...dlbpharmd wrote:My money's on Nom.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:20 am
I'd have to agree, besides after TC freed him, Nom turned into kind of a pussy.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:43 pm
Nom a pussy???
WTF?
Nom just respected the White Gold. So did Vain.
Vain can be hurt too, that was made evident during his struggle with Findal.
Purpose was what kept Vain alive there.
My money is on Nom.
WTF?
Nom just respected the White Gold. So did Vain.
Vain can be hurt too, that was made evident during his struggle with Findal.
Purpose was what kept Vain alive there.
My money is on Nom.
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 8:22 pm
Nom wouldn't get within ten feet of Vain without being destroyed. Vain had the ability to project his power without physically touching the other person.Lord Doom wrote:Nom a pussy???
WTF?
Nom just respected the White Gold. So did Vain.
Vain can be hurt too, that was made evident during his struggle with Findal.
Purpose was what kept Vain alive there.
My money is on Nom.
Also, the fact that Vain SURVIVED the struggle with Findail, an Elohim that could pretty much do anything and be anything he wanted, seems to indicate that Nom would have been easily defeated.
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:22 pm
Let's think about that for a moment. From WGW, chapter 17:
MrK makes a good point about Vain's ability to project his power, but in this case when he did not make use of that power, the Sandgorgon (not Nom in this instance but would there be any difference?) was clearly the stronger.
For the first time, I see this scene in a whole new light. Like Brinn and the Guardian, and Hamako and the croyel, Vain achieves ultimate victory through sacrifice.
We all know the rest of the story, don't we?"You must now be swift," Findail said. He sounded strangely urgent. "There are Cavewights nigh."
Without warning, he sped past the companions, flashed back into the rocklight like a striking condor.
As he hurtled down the roadway, his form melted out of humanness and assumed the shape of a Sandgorgon.
Fatal as a bludgeon, he crashed headlong against the Demondim-spawn.
Vain made no effort to evade the impact. Ye he could not withstand it. Findail was Earthpower incarnate. The shock of collision made the road lurch, sent tremors like wailing through the stone. Vain had proved himself stronger than Giants or storms, impervious to spears and the na-Mhoram's Grim. He had felt the power of the Worm of the World's End and had survived, though that touch had cost him the use of one arm. He had escaped alone from Elemesnedene and all the Elohim. But Findail hit him with such concentrated might that he was driven backward.
MrK makes a good point about Vain's ability to project his power, but in this case when he did not make use of that power, the Sandgorgon (not Nom in this instance but would there be any difference?) was clearly the stronger.
For the first time, I see this scene in a whole new light. Like Brinn and the Guardian, and Hamako and the croyel, Vain achieves ultimate victory through sacrifice.
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:46 am
dlbpharmd makes a good point about a physical contest - but IMHO the reason Vain didn't defend himself in the above passage was in order to lure Findail close to him to hold on to the Elohim.
Later in WGW, there is a passage that Findail says Vain compelled him to preserve the ur-vile from harm.
If Vain were weak, how could he compel an Elohim to do anything? No one else could...
Good argument dlbpharmd but my money is still on Vain...
Later in WGW, there is a passage that Findail says Vain compelled him to preserve the ur-vile from harm.
If Vain were weak, how could he compel an Elohim to do anything? No one else could...
Good argument dlbpharmd but my money is still on Vain...
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:57 am
And I think you've persuaded me, MrK.