Kevin's Watch

Stave wasn't innocent of the name calling either...The way he kept crapping on the Ramen for leaving the Land and never coming back....come-on they left 5000 years ago..I think they got on with their lives!!!

I think Fist and Faith has a good point, why compete when there is no competition; if they do not sleep you're hardly going to beat them at staying awake!

There seems to be a logic with the bond between themselves and the Earthpower. The bloodguard vow was underwritten by Earthpower and the vow ultimately proved to be based on a false premise. The Haruchai are not very good at self critique and the guilt and ultimately, blame would be far easier to apportion to the means by which the vow was maintained than to their error in making it.

Suppression of Earthpower and those who wield it may logically (Haruchai logic) be interpretted as preventing others from trusting in something which has, by Haruchai definitions, failed when put to the test.

Tulizar wrote:

native wrote:Think they're using the term [sleepless one] as an insult. Like when they call them Bloodguard.

Geez, I am so dense. I never thought about that. While reading Runes I simply assumed that the Ramen in the First Chrons referred to the Haruhcai as the sleepless ones. I never verified it--still haven't--it just sounded right to me.

The insult, however, does work. Calling Stave a sleepless one is yet another way for the Ramen to remind the Haruchai that they are failures.

couldn't you feel the animosity between the Ramen and Stave? You'd need a chainsaw to cut through it, it was that thick. They spent the majority of the book hurling barely concealed insults his direction.

I began to hate the ramen by the end of the book. Everything was the Master's fault, and they copped it all on the chin.

Extravagent as always, the Haruchai take their intent to the extreme edges of logic. And afterall, there is a logic in their actions, and in their perceptions of the course of the Land's need.

I'm pretty sure that Linden's argument, to Stave at least, regarding the insufficiency of their attempts to ward the Land, told dearly against them. And look what they face now: Another reason to consider themselves failures.

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I would have thought that all the Haruchai would have instantly changed their minds when Stave told them what the Ranyhyn thought of them.

yeah, I was thinking that too. But they did say they were still going to deliberate, so maybe its just a matter of time?

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