Kevin's Watch

That's an interesting take that I have never thought of before... in that no one native to the Land ever used the white gold. WOW... well, at least that means that Esmer might not be as bad as he thinks...

What I have wondered is why didn't the Ravers use the white gold when it fell into their influence? Could the above paragraph be a possible reason?

Does Kasreyn count?

Didn't Kaseryn channel wild magic through yellow gold?

(edit - sorry Wayfriend, didn't see your post.)

...From the perspective that Wild Magic is a metaphor for Passion...consider,,
The destruction of the White Gold would have a negative impact on any Passion being competed for by hope and or despair,. Now ,,if the theme of the TCC is the exploration of the limits of Power, then we're in trouble.
...The power and limitations of Love, Hate,,etc,,is being explored,,but with out Passion either extreme is feckless. Where I see the trouble is with the concept of Hope; is there limitations to Hope? If there is the existance of the slightest iota, smidgen, mote of Hope left in the world, in a person, it exists, and is in contention . If a world or person is all hope, full of passion, there is at least a chance that it will be coverted to some manifestation of good. So,what I'm trying to say is that ,,of all the limitations of expressions of Power...if any hope exists, its power is unlimited,,There is no limit on the Power of Hope.? The opposite, Despair, seems to be a bottomless pit without limits but Death is a limit. Hope can be passed from generation to generation whereas Despair sooner or later is either turned around or dies literally and or figuratively.

So..without wild magic,,passion,,the struggle between hope and despair becomes a chat over coffee. Yet, as long as there is any hope , it is unlimited in its power. Despite, without passion becomes a low grade headache, servicable by a dosage of aspirin.,,No Passion means no struggle. No struggle means no pain,,no gain,,no life.....MEL

So, following the line of reasoning here, Covenant IS the wild magic, the ring is a means of articulation. Anyone with a white gold ring has access to the magic. Covenant dies in WGW and becomes the foundation of the arch of time. Does that mean anyone with access to a white gold ring has to oppose Covenant to destroy the Earth?
If that were the case, then Lindens possession of the ring and the staff wouldnt be so disconcerting. She is in a position where she is capable of despair, but, she wouldnt destroy the land because Jeremiah is in the land. Wouldnt it make sense for everyone to find the kid and Joan and Roger?
Seems logical to me anyway.

in the end tom will be the only thing that stands between fouls total domination or total destruction. he is white gold but only through use(as in white gold wielder.)

thomas has defeated the so called "immortal" lord foul twice. i think hes really p****sed off what ever hes got planned this time round well lets just say hes probably learnt from his mistakes. if the creator is dead. then white gold doesnt matter any more. foul can and has come in some form to our world isnt that a way he can escape from his "prison?"

The only way that destroying the ring will make any sense is if it's to point out that the ring is not the source of the magic, but rather a symbol of one's passion.

However, given that Covenant tried to give it to the beggar and he returned it (saying something like, "you need not fail"), I think that destroying the ring is almost the same--symbolically--as giving up. This cannot be Donaldson's point.

it all goes down to the ring?!

White gold rings aren't really all that rare. I wear one. I got it before I had even heard of Donaldson. I also have a white gold necklace, which I also got several years earlier. I'm like Joan in my metal preference.. (like Joan... ::shudder:::)

So it wouldn't do all that much to destroy a white gold ring. It would still be possible to translate more white gold wielders from the real world. I think nobody did it earlier because that much power would make the situation even more dangerous and less manageable for every side. Lord Foul wouldn't get his sweet, long-awaited revenge if he summoned some other guy with a white gold tiepin. Also, I suspect the Lords at least never got it into their heads how common white gold was.

Additionally, I think the ring could be destroyed, but to truly destroy the component atoms the Land would need a magical equivalent of a particle accelerator or something similar. (And wouldn't they be able to manufacture white gold components if they had a particle accelerator?)

I still hold to the theory that wild magic is manifested in 2 white gold rings only - those belonging to Joan and Thomas Covenant.