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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:00 am
by Plissken
Then these women should be made aware that every woman has the tools to become her best self, and that any man worth a good goddamn is far more attracted to a woman being her best, most ideal self than any (in every sense) two-dimensional "ideal" thrust upon us by ad-man.

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:12 am
by sgt.null
what men Plissken? too many I see are attracted to the superficial.

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:11 am
by Prebe
Plissken wrote:Every ad for men's razors (and hair coloring and... ) include at least one shot of a woman reacting with pleasure to the man's use of the product.
This could also be selling to men Plissken: Use the product - get laid.

As for the T & A, see my new motto. (I'm sure The classically educated Esmer will correct any mistake. He did after all win my latin motto contest)

HLT: You may be right about us having to much time on our hands, err....

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:52 am
by Avatar
Interesting topic indeed, and some good points raised. I agree with Plissken that it's merely a modern reflection of the old Circus Maximus type of thing, as is most "reality" TV.

Prefer British TV myself on the whole, we get a fair sampling of both over here. :)

But yeah, desensitisation is a fairly common thing now-a-days, only spread by the proliferation of television and the internet, but not helped by the news either, at least in terms of things like violence.

Can't help noticing that here at least, news footage seems to have become more graphic. Not sure if it's for shock-value though, or some other explanation.

--A

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:13 pm
by The Laughing Man
IT'S THE ADVERTISERS, STUPID! :haha:

Prebe, I DID?! where the heck is my dam prize? :x
(btw, I can't get the Latin translator to work on your new one?)

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:26 pm
by Cail
Plissken is spot on.

That being said, I know I don't buy things for their image. My clothes and hairstyle are anything but fashionable. I don't wear cologne, I'm not interested in clothing labels, I drive a beat up pickup truck. If I've got a fancy clothing label it's because that particular item is comfortable, not because it's cool.

Now having said that, there's a ton of fashion slaves out there, who can't wait to get the new style.

But as far as entertainment? Part of the problem (I think) is that there's fewer and fewer limits to what is acceptable. There are very few parents who want their daughters being sexually active, but those same parents will allow their pre-teen daughters to wear revealing clothes, shorts with things like "sexy" printed on their butts, and makeup.

There's a place for shame in society. People should feel bad about bad grades in school. Kids should exercise more restraint sexually. But unfortunately the "if it feels good, do it" mentality of the 60s has poisoned American society.

Now, I'm not suggesting that we become a nation of prudes, but is it so wrong to let kids be kids?

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:57 pm
by Nathan
Mammae = breasts (nominative plural)
omnia = everything (accusative singular)
venderunt = they sell

Breasts sell everything.


It seems that two years doing latin wasn't completely wasted.

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:15 pm
by Prebe
Nice work Nathan!

The set of stake knifes I had ready for The Esmer goes to you :D

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:27 pm
by Nathan
There's nothing like a good stake-sharpening knife!

My compliments on getting the correct forms of the nouns by the way. Most people seem to think there's only one form of each noun (-us)

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:42 pm
by sgt.null
avatar, our news does have odd standards. sex is great, but dead bodies from war or hurricane are out. the Mexican stations have more skin and more corpses though.

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:16 pm
by Plissken
sgtnull wrote:what men Plissken? too many I see are attracted to the superficial.
Hey, I'm attracted to the superficial as well - for a bit. (Men never quit entirely being boys, after all.)

But eventually a boy lives long enough to become a man - and then a whole new set of attributes become attractive as well.

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:20 pm
by The Laughing Man
Prebe wrote:Nice work Nathan!

The set of stake knifes I had ready for The Esmer goes to you :D
Image
uuuuhhhh, Prebe?

Image
have you seen Nathan around anywhere? :twisted:

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:24 pm
by Cail
Plissken wrote:Hey, I'm attracted to the superficial as well - for a bit. (Men never quit entirely being boys, after all.)

But eventually a boy lives long enough to become a man - and then a whole new set of attributes become attractive as well.
Precisely. If I were seeking a woman at this point in my life, she'd be very different than the ideal woman I pictured at 20.

Eye candy's all well and good, but it only goes so far.

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:27 pm
by Plissken
Personally, I think that the fact that we're re-learning this is the reason marriages that occur later in life have a better chance of success.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:18 am
by Cail
It's a matter of shifting priorities. Sure the prom queen looked good and was a tiger in the back of the 'ol Chevy, but she was a ditz with no ambition and lousy coping skills.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:44 am
by Avatar
Dennis, yeah, I was talking about blood and corpses really, when I said "graphic."

Cail, although I get what you're saying, I'm not sure that the driving cause has to be shame. Unfortunately, I can't think of a word to describe what I mean, but it's something along the lines of a knowledge that you should be doing better/trying harder/whatever.

I certainly agree about the responsibility of parent though, in terms of permitting/encouraging certain behaviours, apparently without thought.

--A

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:00 am
by Prebe
Sorry Ezz. Nathan's disappeared :)

I knew there was something wrong. My Latin was right my English was hilarious! (stake knife! Jeez!).

Very funny Nathan! Keep poking fun at the foreigner.

I should know how to spell it though, since one of the most common phonetic errors among Danes is pronouncing steak as “steek”.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:02 am
by The Laughing Man
have you ever stuck your finger in a dyke? :roll:

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:11 am
by Prebe
Not without getting bitch-slapped, no :D

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:12 am
by The Laughing Man
:haha:

you mean "butch-slapped", don't you? :lol: