Turgid and gratuitous verbiage: SRD's use of language.

Post by **Dromond** » Thu Apr 24, 2003 4:00 am

I was afraid someone would ask me that question, dukka!
It's somewhere fairly early in WGW. I'll try to find it when I have time-hopefully someone is reading WGW now and can look out for it. I do remember that it is Pitchwife who uses the word.

Post by **Dlan_Mhoram** » Thu Apr 24, 2003 4:50 pm

Well, i have a spanish version of the books, but the "strange" (i don´t know the exactly word, sorry) way of writing exists even in the translation

Post by **Dromond** » Thu Apr 24, 2003 10:07 pm

heh- still looking for 'unhermeneutical' thanks for the help fightingmyinstincts, you're right it may be in TWL or TOT but somewhere in 2nd chron.

Post by **Dromond** » Thu Apr 24, 2003 10:13 pm

Eureka! Unhermeneuticable .
Page 366 TOT.

Post by **dukkha** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 6:04 pm

Dromond wrote:Eureka! Unhermeneuticable .
Page 366 TOT.

Unhermeneuticable? DAMN. From Pitchwife of all people. It's funny because there are unusual words he could have picked there, and instead SRD simply makes up a word.

Hermeneutic - a word. But I can't believe anybody has ever used unhermeneuticable.

Post by **dukkha** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 6:06 pm

Note - I've added roynish to the list.

Post by **I'm Murrin** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 6:19 pm

Hermeneutic = interpret (not sure, had trouble understanding the definition I found)
Therefore 'Hermeneuticable' = Interpretable
Therefore 'Unhermeneuticable' = Uninterpretable (can't be interpreted)

Not sure of that - as I said, the definition was pretty vague. I would try loking at the line it's used in, but the page number given is useless since I have the full second chrons all in one book.

Post by **Dromond** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 6:38 pm

Member251, I think your right on with the definition. It would take typing half the page to put the word in context--it is the 3rd page in the chapter 'Mothers' child'. they just got back on the ship after killing Kasreyn.

Post by **amanibhavam** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 9:36 pm

Hermeneutic \Her`me*neu"tic\, Hermeneutical \Her`me*neu"tic*al\,
a. [Gr. ?, fr. ? to interpret: cf. F. herm['e]neutique.]
Unfolding the signification; of or pertaining to
interpretation; exegetical; explanatory; as, hermeneutic
theology, or the art of expounding the Scriptures; a
hermeneutic phrase.

Post by **dukkha** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 9:56 pm

My point about unhermeneuticable wasn't that I couldn't understand what it meant. My point is that I don't think it's ever been used. I guess I'll have to check out the OED in the library to look. It seems like a neologism to me - a rather ugly one at that, although it comes at a really tense moment so I guess it works.

Post by **Dromond** » Thu May 08, 2003 3:23 am

*bump*

Post by **Dromond** » Wed May 14, 2003 10:06 pm

Is this word in your dictionary?
demnify
Findail speaking:

"That which he bore was no son of his flesh. It was of the croyel--beings of hunger and sustenance that demnify the dark places of the Earth.

It's not in my Merriam Webster collegiate.

Post by **Infelice** » Wed May 14, 2003 10:13 pm

Nope. I just used my Encarta dictionary - not the best source in the world - but its not there either.

Post by **Dromond** » Thu May 15, 2003 2:19 am

I suppose it means demonize or similar, but I do believe SRD made up another word!

W.B. · Post by **W.B.** » Thu May 15, 2003 3:30 am

I think it's a different version of a word that is in the dictionary. When deploying his verbiage (great subject line, BTW

), Donsldson often seems add or remove prefixes and/or suffexes to create an unusual or uncommon version of a more familiar word. So demnify is the prefix-less version of indemnify, which is "to save harmless; to secure against loss or damage; to insure" (Webster's unabridged). So to demnify would be to make something dangerous or unsafe. I guess it died out in common usage and fell out of dictionaries while its sibling, indemnify/indemnity, survived.

Post by **Dromond** » Thu May 15, 2003 3:35 am

Hmmmmm.....

Very interesting, indeed! Thanks W.B! It makes sense to me.

Post by **amanibhavam** » Thu May 15, 2003 9:10 pm

or maybe he meant damnify...

Post by **danlo** » Thu May 15, 2003 9:19 pm

That's very roynish of u...**making inane posts in order 2 buy scratch card**

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Post by **amanibhavam** » Fri May 16, 2003 8:14 am

I don't understand...

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Turgid and gratuitous verbiage: SRD's use of language.

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