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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:07 am
by lucimay
Loremaster wrote:Most of science in the Gap is well researched, there are some errors (though more the fault of an advisor than SRD's) - the Singularity grenades, singularities forming due to gravitational interaction, Beckman's plans, the nature of the mutagen . . .
i'm sure you're correct about there being errors in some of the science but it was completely CONVINCING to me (who is NOT a scientist), meaning Donaldson made the science plausible and easily understandable to a lay person like myself. usually, in hard sci-fi, i find myself either out of my depth or unconvinced. sometimes things just seem so absurd as to be unbelivable which takes me out of the story. unable to suspend my disbelief, as it were. neither of these things happened to me while reading the Gap. and that is one of the MAJOR reasons i'm posting in THIS PARTICULAR thread!!!
I LOVE THE GAP!!! :)

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:15 am
by Fist and Faith
Come on, Lucimay, get off the fence! Do you like the Gap, or not?? Make a decision, for cryin' out loud!!



:lol:

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:22 am
by Loredoctor
Lucimay wrote:
Loremaster wrote:Most of science in the Gap is well researched, there are some errors (though more the fault of an advisor than SRD's) - the Singularity grenades, singularities forming due to gravitational interaction, Beckman's plans, the nature of the mutagen . . .
i'm sure you're correct about there being errors in some of the science but it was completely CONVINCING to me (who is NOT a scientist), meaning Donaldson made the science plausible and easily understandable to a lay person like myself. usually, in hard sci-fi, i find myself either out of my depth or unconvinced. sometimes things just seem so absurd as to be unbelivable which takes me out of the story. unable to suspend my disbelief, as it were. neither of these things happened to me while reading the Gap. and that is one of the MAJOR reasons i'm posting in THIS PARTICULAR thread!!!
I LOVE THE GAP!!! :)
Well said!
Fist & Faith wrote:Come on, Lucimay, get off the fence! Do you like the Gap, or not?? Make a decision, for cryin' out loud!!
LOL

Re: I love the Gap!

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:06 pm
by Sorus
Loremaster wrote:Can't help myself. Just love the series!
:goodpost:

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:54 am
by lucimay
Fist and Faith wrote:Come on, Lucimay, get off the fence! Do you like the Gap, or not?? Make a decision, for cryin' out loud!!

:lol:
:haha:

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:42 am
by Elfgirl
I'm sick of losing track of things! When they reset due to hackheads, all the stuff we discussed goes bye-byes!

Why don't they leave us alone? :E

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:29 pm
by Sorus
Fist and Faith wrote: I, alas, have stopped reading The Gap. I read halfway through the 2nd book, and just don't want to read any more of Morn's pain and horror. It may be SRD's greatest exploration of what a human can go through, but I don't want to go through any more of it. There's, what, three and half more books of it? 8O No thanks!
I replied yesterday to a post by CovenantJr that was rudely deleted by hackers, and can't remember exactly what I said the first time around. :?

Yes, the series is dark and brutal. It doesn't get easier. But it's worth it. You made it through TRS - don't give up now!

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:55 pm
by CovenantJr
From what I recall, I said "The middle of the second book is where it starts to get really good". I didn't see your reply.

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:09 pm
by Marv
CovenantJr wrote: I said "The middle of the second book is where it starts to get really good".
do you mean that you didnt like the first book and a half or that its a bit of an emotional struggle. i havnt finished the series yet but i cant pick between the first three. i thought the first one was very graphic and harsh but because of that i was completely engrosed and couldnt put the blighter down.

i had to read on and find out what happened. im surprised anyone wouldnt.

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:15 am
by Cail
I may have already said this, but I utterly despised The Real Story. Having said that, I think The Gap is the best thing SRD has written.

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:34 am
by Elfgirl
Cail wrote:I may have already said this, but I utterly despised The Real Story. Having said that, I think The Gap is the best thing SRD has written.
I think that's what prompted me to go on to FK - it was such heinous treatment for Morn I had to go on and find out if Nick did better by her. Unfortunately not. However, a lot of it was of her own doing.... :roll:

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:20 pm
by Usivius
:lol: and I have said this before, I loved The Real Story --- knowing it was book one of a series, it was the perfect, dark horrible beginning to a great series. I had a hard time stomaching the cruelty of it, but understood it, and knoew that SRD was not using druelty for the sake of it.
This may be why I still to this day, have a hard time beleiving Angus is a 'good' character in any social sense. He is a great interesting character for the purpose of the novel, but I never 'felt' for him, or sympthized with him at all....

I liked the books in this order:
2
1
5
3
4

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:23 pm
by CovenantJr
Tazzman wrote:
CovenantJr wrote: I said "The middle of the second book is where it starts to get really good".
do you mean that you didnt like the first book and a half or that its a bit of an emotional struggle.
I enjoyed the Real Story, and though it was horrible, it didn't faze me. I certainly didn't find it a struggle. The beginning of FK was more developed, but less compelling. I had to force myself through the non-events of the first half. Not a criticism, just an observation. The second half of FK is where the sheer scale of the expanding plot began to make itself known, and consequently that is the point at which the Gap stopped being "enjoyable enough but not that special" and became special.

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:30 pm
by Marv
i see. i read the real story inside two days and could hardly put it down. i agree about FK though by the way. it was quite repetative at times. i think maybe because im still reading it, its harder to differentiate between the books. ill have a more rounded view when im finished.

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:35 pm
by Loredoctor
CovenantJr wrote:The second half of FK is where the sheer scale of the expanding plot began to make itself known, and consequently that is the point at which the Gap stopped being "enjoyable enough but not that special" and became special.
My sentiments exactly.

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:15 pm
by Cail
Yup, I agree completely.