Kevin's Watch

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:18 pm**

danlo wrote:Stunned by Bruford on The Power to Believe and MUST put a plug in for Billy Cobham (Mahavishnu Orchestra).

sorry danlo...i didn't put any credits in there did i...

that's Pat Mastelotto on drums with Adrian, Trey, and Robert

and YO!! on Billy Cobham...Crosswinds, Spectrum!!!

(ps...i guess this means you got the package)

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:33 pm**

Lucimay ... you certainly know your music...

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:26 pm**

A few modern Drum Gods:

Jimmy Chamberlain (smashing Pumpkins)
Matt Sorum (Soundgarden Temple of the Dog and Pearl Jam's latest Drummer)
Mike Portony (dream Theater)

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:50 am**

Joey Castillo (Queens of The Stone Age)
Paul Hester
Malcom Green
David Grohl (Formerly Nirvana and Queens of The Stone Age, now lead singer of Foo Fighters)

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:40 am**

Barriemore Barlow - Tull drummer from 1971 thru 1980

Living in the Past
Thick as a Brick
A Passion Play
War Child
Minstrel in the Gallery
Too Old to Rock and Roll
Songs from the Wood
Heavy Horses
Bursting Out
Stormwatch
Nightcap

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:35 am**

My brother in law recently subjected me to a couple of Van Halen CD's while on a trip

I came away with the impression that Alex Van Halen is a pretty damn good drummer.

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:27 am**

Levon Helm, The Band

for his excellent shuffle...

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:28 pm**

Really SBG? I've always felt that AVH really didn't learn how to play until the 1984 album, and really didn't start becoming good until the Van Hagar days (then again, that was 20 years ago).

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:34 pm**

This is another good reference thread for me. I must check some of the names mentioned, as I love rock drumming - maybe even more than rock guitar.

My twin gods would be Stewart Copeland and John Bonham. (Already blathered on about them in another thread long ago.)

Right behind them would be Mark Brzezicki.

It gets a little murky for me beyond these three...

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:47 pm**

Bill Bruford. B'boom.

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:12 pm**

Lord Foul wrote:Bill Bruford. B'boom.

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:59 pm**

Drumming is a difficult genre to judge.

Some people just like a bands drummer, becasue he is loud, and noticable.
Some people judge on speed.
Some jusge on rythums and skill.
There's Controll.
There's diverstiy.
and of course there's 'showboativness'

One of the greatest drummers around (he's dead now) was Gary Chester.
I have a couple of his books, and they've taught me more than any drum teacher I've ever been to.
he was the Back beat behind hit after hit of 50's and 60's music.

Here's a link to some of his credits:
www.angelfire.com/music5/garychester/credits.html

I'm sure most of you have heard of many of these songs.
I didn't see it listed, but he also played the soundtrack to Little Shop of Horors.

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:08 pm**

Good post Drew. That's why I give Bonzo so much credit. The man could play anything, in any style, on a tiny kit. To me, that's talent.

I prefer that big drum sound that Bonzo was so good at, and I think the best drummer still alive that does it is Carmine Appice, especially in this band...

Blue Murder

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:39 pm**

sunbaneglasses:

My brother in law recently subjected me to a couple of Van Halen CD's while on a trip I came away with the impression that Alex Van Halen is a pretty damn good drummer.

sorry.. there is a funny story (cannot verify if it is indeed true) about a time in the late 80s when Van Halen and Rush happen to meet at a concert date. Alex and Neil (Peart) aas talking drumming. The topic of the opening drum part of "Hot for Teacher" comes up where Alex comments on using delay effects on the pedals to get that bust bass drum sound ... Neil sits down at the set and begins to play the part without any electronic aid ...

In my humble opinion the only one worth his musical salt was Eddie ... Alex and the bass player (no idea what his name is, but he is about as basic as you can get and still get credit), are mundain at best... <shrug>

as for Lucy's latest photo posting of BB ...

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:49 pm**

...Neil sits down at the set and begins to play the part without any electronic aid...

Geddy Lee said it best: "Ladies and gentleman, the Professor of the drum kit, Mr. Neil Peart!"

Lucimay wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:Bill Bruford. B'boom.

Bruford, Wakeman & Howe? remember?

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:00 pm**

most underrated drummer ever...very tasty...can't do Beatles covers if you don't have a drummer that can do Ringo's chops!!!

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:40 pm**

The greatest of them all!!

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:53 pm**

The Esmer wrote:Bruford, Wakeman & Howe? remember?

Bruford, Wakeman, Howe, and SQUIRE!! (loves Chris Squire)

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:58 pm**

we forgot Jon Anderson!

Although conceived by Anderson as being a Yes re-union, others in the band were keen to distance themselves from the "Yes" name. At the time, the name was co-owned by Howe, Alan White and Chris Squire and, as Squire and White were still continuing with a different band called Yes, it was not possible for ABWH to use the "Yes" name anyway. Anticipating this problem, Jon Anderson suggested they call themselves "The Affirmative," but the other band members felt that was disingenuous. The name "No" was also suggested, but in the end, they decided to simply name themselves after the members of the band, despite the very legitimate criticism that it made them sound like an accounting firm. When Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe toured, they titled their shows "An Evening Of Yes Music Plus." ABWH were sued by Yes in an attempt to prevent any mention of Yes in the ABWH promotional material. This seems to stem from an agreement before the release of Yes's 90125 album between Yes, Howe and Wakeman over the use of the Yes name in the promotion of other activities.

Eventually, ABWH and Yes resolved their differences and produced a Yes album titled Union that included recordings originally intended for separate albums by both groups.

and....

This is a stellar display of musicianship that shows how much the band has matured over the past 20 years, although Chris Squire is not involved in the production due to legal issues of Chris owning the rights to the band name 'Yes' at the time.

Posted: **Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:05 am**

Luci: I'd say Ringo is underated, because he's not shown that much as a drummer.
The only Beatles I've ever heard that has any kind of challenging drumming is Come Together...and it's only one pattern played over and over.

I'm not knocking him though...anyone who has played for as long as he has, can't be anything less of amazing. Underated drummer are often just that..underated. Another example would be Matt Sorum. He played with the Cult; Guns n Roses, and now VElvet Revolver. to listen to asny of his albums, he sounds like a typical hard rock drummer...but I have a copy of him playing Beula Witch with the Buddy Rich Big Band..man he can keep up with Jazz solo drummer.

BTW anyone who loves listening to drum solos, should pick up Burning For Buddy; a tribute album to Buddy Rich, played with his original band, produced my Neil PEart, and performed by over a dozen well known, and not so well known drummers (but no Ringo)