STAR TREK 11 - KIRK AND SPOCK?

Talk about both the movies and the books.

Moderator: aTOMiC

User avatar
dlbpharmd
Lord
Posts: 14462
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:27 am
Been thanked: 2 times

Post by dlbpharmd »

I wouldn't even enjoy that, Duchess - I see some idiot writer completely destroying ST continuity with something like that.
Image
User avatar
Loredoctor
Lord
Posts: 18609
Joined: Sun Jul 14, 2002 11:35 pm
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Contact:

Post by Loredoctor »

dlbpharmd wrote:
Loremaster wrote:They've done Star Trek (TNG) and X-Men crossover. *shudders*
When was that?
It was a comic I saw for sale years back.
Waddley wrote:your Highness Sir Dr. Loredoctor, PhD, Esq, the Magnificent, First of his name, Second Cousin of Dragons, White-Gold-Plate Wielder!
User avatar
dlbpharmd
Lord
Posts: 14462
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:27 am
Been thanked: 2 times

Post by dlbpharmd »

How interesting....
Image
User avatar
duchess of malfi
The Gap Into Spam
Posts: 11104
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 9:20 pm
Location: Michigan, USA

Post by duchess of malfi »

dlbpharmd wrote:I wouldn't even enjoy that, Duchess - I see some idiot writer completely destroying ST continuity with something like that.
I had not thought about that, but you're likely right. <sighs> :(
Love as thou wilt.

Image
User avatar
Alynna Lis Eachann
Lord
Posts: 3060
Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2002 8:23 pm
Location: Maryland, my Maryland

Post by Alynna Lis Eachann »

Loremaster wrote:
dlbpharmd wrote:
Loremaster wrote:They've done Star Trek (TNG) and X-Men crossover. *shudders*
When was that?
It was a comic I saw for sale years back.
Also a book. I read part of it at the bookstore - didn't feel the need to pay for the thing. I can't recall what the actual plot was, except that the mutants had their own planet or something.

I really thought they were just going to drop the idea of another movie altogether, but to see that this is their brilliant plan... I think I'd rather have Rick Berman's hare-brained idea back on the table, if they insist on churning out a movie.

Quite frankly, I'm insulted. You don't mess with the foundation of Trek. It's not fair to the fans, it's not fair to the franchise, it's not fair to the actors, and it's not fair to Roddenberry's memory.

And really, you'd think that having their latest series cancelled would give these people a clue... or are they hoping for a rebirth from the ashes, as before? In that case, they've got a couple decades to go. :roll:
"We probably could have saved ourselves, but we were too damned lazy to try very hard... and too damn cheap." - Kurt Vonnegut

"Now if you remember all great paintings have an element of tragedy to them. Uh, for instance if you remember from last week, the unicorn was stuck on the aircraft carrier and couldn't get off. That was very sad. " - Kids in the Hall
User avatar
Cail
Lord
Posts: 38981
Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:36 am
Location: Hell of the Upside Down Sinners

Post by Cail »

This may be heresy, but I honestly think the Trek universe has run it's course. There may be some point in the future that its worth revisiting, but for the time being, let it die.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
User avatar
dlbpharmd
Lord
Posts: 14462
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:27 am
Been thanked: 2 times

Post by dlbpharmd »

Cail wrote:This may be heresy, but I honestly think the Trek universe has run it's course. There may be some point in the future that its worth revisiting, but for the time being, let it die.
I agree.
User avatar
sgt.null
Jack of Odd Trades, Master of Fun
Posts: 48346
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:53 am
Location: Brazoria, Texas
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 10 times

Post by sgt.null »

i agree with Cail. the Trek universe is too static. nothing changes. it seems the writers are too intent to not upset the applecart.
Lenin, Marx
Marx, Lennon
Good Dog...
Variol Farseer
Bloodguard
Posts: 974
Joined: Sun Nov 10, 2002 11:43 am
Contact:

Post by Variol Farseer »

The writers, from all I've heard, would love to upset the applecart, but Paramount is run by control freaks who won't allow any changes to the Trek universe — not until those changes have been market-researched, focus-, studied in committee, tested, edited, retested, re-edited, critiqued by the producer's wife's hairdresser, and then tied into big bales of paper and stored at the bottom of disused peat bogs for at least 18 months.

This, needless to say, is a great way to prevent interesting stories from being written.
Without the Quest, our lives will be wasted.
User avatar
sgt.null
Jack of Odd Trades, Master of Fun
Posts: 48346
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:53 am
Location: Brazoria, Texas
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 10 times

Post by sgt.null »

i always found the Star Wars novels more interesting than the films. we learned more background, explored different areas of that universe. I wish the same were true for Trek.
Lenin, Marx
Marx, Lennon
Good Dog...
User avatar
High Lord Tolkien
Excommunicated Member of THOOLAH
Posts: 7393
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 2:40 am
Location: Cape Cod, Mass
Been thanked: 3 times
Contact:

Post by High Lord Tolkien »

So lets have some ideas.
What would be some good apples to throw out of the cart?
Or what would be overturning the whole thing be for you people anyway?

Blow up the Earth?
The Federation breaks up?
Treble the Terrible Tribble?
What do you want to see that would make you jump up and run to see the movie?

I still like the Kirk-Bones-Spock Starfleet idea.
I posted on another thread how I think it could work.
No need to make it 90210 in Space either!!
https://thoolah.blogspot.com/

[Defeated by a gizmo from Batman's utility belt]
Joker: I swear by all that's funny never to be taken in by that unconstitutional device again!


Image Image Image Image
User avatar
Alynna Lis Eachann
Lord
Posts: 3060
Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2002 8:23 pm
Location: Maryland, my Maryland

Post by Alynna Lis Eachann »

I don't want another movie. This franchise has run its course. Paramount needs to accept that fact and stop churning out whatever random idea happens to make it through the screening process.
"We probably could have saved ourselves, but we were too damned lazy to try very hard... and too damn cheap." - Kurt Vonnegut

"Now if you remember all great paintings have an element of tragedy to them. Uh, for instance if you remember from last week, the unicorn was stuck on the aircraft carrier and couldn't get off. That was very sad. " - Kids in the Hall
User avatar
High Lord Tolkien
Excommunicated Member of THOOLAH
Posts: 7393
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 2:40 am
Location: Cape Cod, Mass
Been thanked: 3 times
Contact:

Post by High Lord Tolkien »

Alynna Lis Eachann wrote:I don't want another movie. This franchise has run its course. Paramount needs to accept that fact and stop churning out whatever random idea happens to make it through the screening process.
What if it was all about Odo?

;)
https://thoolah.blogspot.com/

[Defeated by a gizmo from Batman's utility belt]
Joker: I swear by all that's funny never to be taken in by that unconstitutional device again!


Image Image Image Image
User avatar
dlbpharmd
Lord
Posts: 14462
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:27 am
Been thanked: 2 times

Post by dlbpharmd »

Alynna Lis Eachann wrote:I don't want another movie. This franchise has run its course. Paramount needs to accept that fact and stop churning out whatever random idea happens to make it through the screening process.
I'm with Alynna. I still say a movie about Romulus and Vulcan re-uniting would've been great, since that would've been similar to what happened in real life in 1989 when the two Germany's re-united. The best ST always imitated real life. However, that opportunity was wasted on the terrible movies Insurrection and whatever the heck the last one was called.
User avatar
Loredoctor
Lord
Posts: 18609
Joined: Sun Jul 14, 2002 11:35 pm
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Contact:

Post by Loredoctor »

Cail wrote:This may be heresy, but I honestly think the Trek universe has run it's course. There may be some point in the future that its worth revisiting, but for the time being, let it die.
Well said. ST has become a trademark. How ironic given its original purpose.
Waddley wrote:your Highness Sir Dr. Loredoctor, PhD, Esq, the Magnificent, First of his name, Second Cousin of Dragons, White-Gold-Plate Wielder!
User avatar
sgt.null
Jack of Odd Trades, Master of Fun
Posts: 48346
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:53 am
Location: Brazoria, Texas
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 10 times

Post by sgt.null »

destroy the federation. have the various star fleet ships going to wherever the crew wanted. new alliances, new enemies. screw the code of non-interference. if the Romulans can recruit a ship, let them. if Picard decides to blow up the Ferengi, go ahead. but have change, real change. if Worf dies, so be it. have Wesley command a ship of philosophers...
Lenin, Marx
Marx, Lennon
Good Dog...
User avatar
dlbpharmd
Lord
Posts: 14462
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:27 am
Been thanked: 2 times

Post by dlbpharmd »

For God's sake, no more Wesley!
Image
User avatar
Loredoctor
Lord
Posts: 18609
Joined: Sun Jul 14, 2002 11:35 pm
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Contact:

Post by Loredoctor »

dlbpharmd wrote:For God's sake, no more Wesley!
:lol:
Waddley wrote:your Highness Sir Dr. Loredoctor, PhD, Esq, the Magnificent, First of his name, Second Cousin of Dragons, White-Gold-Plate Wielder!
User avatar
Romeo
The Gap Into Spam
Posts: 1194
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2002 1:22 pm
Location: Ashland, PA, USA
Contact:

Post by Romeo »

It'll be interesting to see how it's done, and who they pick to play young Kirk and Spock. I was pretty impressed by the two actors they got to play young Harry and Lloyd in "Dumb and Dumberer." They looked the part, and played the characters perfectly. (okay, the title explains it all, but you have to give *some* marks here for the character consistency)
And then the ravens pecked out his eyes.
User avatar
dANdeLION
Lord
Posts: 23836
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2003 3:22 am
Location: In the jungle, the mighty jungle
Contact:

Post by dANdeLION »

dlbpharmd wrote:What we need is a paradigm shift.
I agree. I think that they could learn something from Firefly, like how to avoid a sterile universe. I actually liked the last year of Enterprise, but I think nowadays execs are quick to pull the plug on original ideas, and slow to pull it on overdone ideas.
Dandelion don't tell no lies
Dandelion will make you wise
Tell me if she laughs or cries
Blow away dandelion


I'm afraid there's no denying
I'm just a dandelion
a fate I don't deserve.


High priest of THOOOTP

:hobbes: *

* This post carries Jay's seal of approval
Post Reply

Return to “Star Wars and Star Trek Forum”