Kevin's Watch

Bhakti wrote:I do not believe we can take the chance that things under the Star will not grow even without Nor Yekith's presence, and threaten all. And it would be much easier to see what is there by taking the Star down than by sending followers in. (And that would be putting our followers at great risk.) (Of course, it need not be the God of Destruction who takes down the Star, but that is another matter.)

However, we have not mentioned that Nor Yekith has been God of Disease for many seasons. Mutagens are not remotely the only danger under the Star. I propose this:
-We each give AK a DRP to take down the Star.
-We each give Maeror a DRP to search for Diseases/Plagues after the Star falls.
-We each give me a DRP to study the Mutagens after the Star falls, and how they fit into the Natural life-cycles of Nor Pupae. (As Melirelle says, there could be catastrophic danger to the inhabitants if we simply destroy the Mutagens.)

Then, next turn:
-We each give Maeror a DRP to eradicate whatever needs eradicating, and/or give immunity to the rest of Eiran.
-We each give me a DRP to neutralize whatever Mutagens can be neutralized without harming the Natural flow of life in Nor Pupae, and set up a barrier around Nor Pupae that will neutralize any Mutagens that pass through it.

Brother, while I see the wisdom of your words, being limited to only three DRP I am having a little difficulty agreeing to your suggestions for this Turn. I do have domestic issues I need to address...

Wise words Bhakti, i agree with you, my friend.

I will be glad to give a DRP to heal Eiran from the mutagens.

O-gon-cho, I would not begrudge you being able to contribute only a single DRP to the efforts each turn, although others may feel otherwise. Or perhaps 1 this turn, and 2 the next?

Bhakti wrote:O-gon-cho, I would not begrudge you being able to contribute only a single DRP to the efforts each turn, although others may feel otherwise. Or perhaps 1 this turn, and 2 the next?

I had already commited to donating 2 DRP this Turn, and still feel I can address my domestic issues (I hope!) proceeding with this plan. But I am now torn on where best to donate the 2 I had planned on.

As far as planning on donating for next Turn, ah... That will depend on what happens to me after this Turn, no? My choices on how I will address my domestic issues this Turn with only one DRP may limit me on what I can donate then.

Well, whichever plan is agreed upon, just do what you can. And I would first donate to the Star's destruction. Nothing else will happen as easily or quickly while the Star is in the sky.

I have no interests in the former lands of Nor Yekith, but I would be willing to offer my services in taking down the Star. No offense, AK, but even if I did trust you completely, what kind of destruction are we talking about? What would happen to the debris? Would there be any aftereffects because of its destruction? Personally, I would be much more confident of a careful deconstruction.

Simjen wrote:I have no interests in the former lands of Nor Yekith, but I would be willing to offer my services in taking down the Star. No offense, AK, but even if I did trust you completely, what kind of destruction are we talking about? What would happen to the debris? Would there be any aftereffects because of its destruction? Personally, I would be much more confident of a careful deconstruction.

Ahhhh ... God of the Smith ... while I appreciate your offer ... YOUR approach of FIRE will definitely cause more collateral damage. As I recall, fire damaged YOUR OWN lands and destroyed followers in the thousands! I think that the Pantheon might be wise to avoid such a result here!!

But your question is fair ... my DESTRUCTION is primal ... and basically GRAVITIC. In other worlds and other dimensions I could speak of Black Holes ... but here that reference might not be understood. Stated simply my DESTRUCTION rends matter and energy alike ... rips it apart into its most component parts ... call the parts quanta if you will. Understand that the rending is so complete the no nature, no intent, no original purpose of the object so destroyed can ever be diserned or impact any others then the quanta as a whole are aborbed and forever become part of the OMEGA ... they simply begin their ending EONS earlier than might otherwise have been the case.

Know also this ... I had asked earlier of the AllFather whether or not in absorbing the STAR I would absorb it's DRP strength (a logical question for the Pantheon to also ask) - in this I was informed that no such enhancement would accrue to me. You may ask your wife, Goddess of Knowledge to confirm this. Yes ... exercise of my Domain ... as does us all ... increases my strength. But the Pantheon will see no unexpected (or unwanted *chuckes*) increase in my power from the STAR's Destruction.

I also agree to the Pantheon will ... and Bahkti's plan ... I will NOT send Destruction on to the Mutatgens or breeding pits or other foul denizens. Rather I will leave such to Maeror and Bahkti to redeem. I ask only this; please do not forget my followers in Yekithii or indeed even the trees of Bahkti ... they suffer greatly in their current form.

*bows*

I would gladly switch my offer of donating a DRP from Astavyastataa Kadna to Simjen. I also mean no offense to Asta, but although one claims to be ancient, I know the other has been on Eiran a long time, and his works have had no complaints. One is unproven in acts such as these, the other held in high regard.

I support asking the Star be brought down by Simjen, rather then Astavyastataa Kadna. Although one of my DRP will go to either, once a final choice is decided.

O-gon-cho wrote:I would gladly switch my offer of donating a DRP from Astavyastataa Kadna to Simjen. I also mean no offense to Asta, but although one claims to be ancient, I know the other has been on Eiran a long time, and his works have had no complaints. One is unproven in acts such as these, the other held in high regard.

I support asking the Star be brought down by Simjen, rather then Astavyastataa Kadna. Although one of my DRP will go to either, once a final choice is decided.

So ... you break with me! SO BE IT!!

Astavyastataa Kadna wrote:

O-gon-cho wrote:I would gladly switch my offer of donating a DRP from Astavyastataa Kadna to Simjen. I also mean no offense to Asta, but although one claims to be ancient, I know the other has been on Eiran a long time, and his works have had no complaints. One is unproven in acts such as these, the other held in high regard.

I support asking the Star be brought down by Simjen, rather then Astavyastataa Kadna. Although one of my DRP will go to either, once a final choice is decided.

So ... you break with me! SO BE IT!!

You are such a reactionary...

Though the destruction of Magoddar was not by any act of my own, fire played little part in it. The vast majority of it was caused by impact. Indeed, there has been more damage caused by fire from the recent raising of the undead (which strangely enough, no one has asked for my help with).

However, I hadn't planned on using fire, but the forge. I can take apart as well as I can put together. Considering Nor Yekith stated on more than one occasion that the Star would fall, I would be hesitant removing it will ye nill ye. *shrug* But if you are confident you can remove it with no ill effects... it is no matter to me.

Simjen wrote:Though the destruction of Magoddar was not by any act of my own, fire played little part in it. The vast majority of it was caused by impact. Indeed, there has been more damage caused by fire from the recent raising of the undead (which strangely enough, no one has asked for my help with).

However, I hadn't planned on using fire, but the forge. I can take apart as well as I can put together. Considering Nor Yekith stated on more than one occasion that the Star would fall, I would be hesitant removing it will ye nill ye. *shrug* But if you are confident you can remove it with no ill effects... it is no matter to me.

I am confident ... and I appreciate your trust.

Since I have been asked, I will recount the tale of my meeting with the Allfather.

Another god had informed me that the mists to the north had been roiling, and as I am one of the most northern-based gods, I was asked if I would investigate it. So I created the first airship, The Andur, and mounted an expedition to explore the mists, with the brother of my prophet, Cullep (now Attem, leader of the Giants), as the leader of the expedition.

After passing the desolate remains of one of Maeror's ships, the crew bravely entered the mists. Their faith and conviction alone saw them through. Shortly after, they returned. Although they had no memory of what happened, they were enchanted with a sense of wonder and had the message for me that "He waits."

So by the grace of the Allfather, I entered the mists in person. There I met one who was both a stranger and familiar, young but ancient. And it was the Allfather. There he told me that once before had someone entered the mists to speak with him, and once before a boon was granted. As such, I was to be granted whatever I should ask for, so long as it was agreed with by all other gods.

So did all the gods agree to increase their own power temporarily, so long as none was used against another. In this way, the abomination attacking Bhakti was destroyed and the numerous rents in the fabric of reality mended.

But the Allfather told me that there was one before me, and should one come to seek him after, then he would destroy the world completely (which he himself repeated to the Pantheon).

Obviously, I would recommend no one try to talk to the Allfather again for that reason alone, but I would also warn against it unless you think your skill and power to be greater than the efforts I have undertaken to make sure no god tried to test the Allfather's word.

I see ... that is important news cousin Simjen ... were a God or Goddess to have attempted this Mists to address this crisis ... your measures may have harmed them!

I am sure the Pantheon is pleased with your revelation.

*shrug* Harm's always an option when a god doesn't know what they're doing. I was lucky to pull it off myself. But safety's our goal here in the Forge. It's incredibly unlikely that anything I did in that regard would bring another god to harm. But even then, I'd rather a single god came to harm than the whole of Eiran.

Simjen, I will happily give you - and only you - drp to rid Eiran of the star.

I realise time is growing short, but i agree with the God of Fire that giving power to the God of Destriction for the 'taking down' of an aerial body is folly.

I have an alternative plan in mind, which should prove safer and have a higher chance of success. Those of you who are interested in removing the star, please contact me privately, as I fear that my plan could be thwarted at this early stage if announced publicly.

I am also willing to provide power to prevent the spread of the mutagens, or at least prevent them affecting our followers in a harmful manner. Is there a plan afoot for this? Maeror?

Undine

Stonemaybe wrote:I realise time is growing short, but i agree with the God of Fire that giving power to the God of Destriction for the 'taking down' of an aerial body is folly.

I have an alternative plan in mind, which should prove safer and have a higher chance of success. Those of you who are interested in removing the star, please contact me privately, as I fear that my plan could be thwarted at this early stage if announced publicly.

I am also willing to provide power to prevent the spread of the mutagens, or at least prevent them affecting our followers in a harmful manner. Is there a plan afoot for this? Maeror?

Undine

So ... god of the Ocean ... you too stand against me. SO BE IT!

Fire, water, air... all we need now is Melirelle and it will be complete.

So ... god of the Ocean ... you too stand against me. SO BE IT!

Who's standing against who?

I'm not questioning your ability to do as you say, I'm just questioning whether you would care about the (literal) fall-out of your plan. We've seen the chaos and destruction caused by a meteor shower in Magoddar. Destroying a star that hangs above the central continent of Eiran is just asking for trouble!

Undine