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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:09 am
by I'm Murrin
Though you must acknowledge that you placed the cause of the compulsion on Melirelle without knowing if that was the case, and missing the fact that she has stated otherwise.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:14 am
by Argothoth
i and Odal are still searching for lands in which settle with our undeads.

Since The Fallen is my vassal, i have his permission to settle with my undeads there.

Astalavista, i hope you understand my needs.

If you want to build a city in that territory, you are welcome.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:18 am
by Bhakti
Well, I did say "if I'm not mistaken..." I did not accuse anyone of anything. And yes, I had forgotten that Argothoth is also based there. (Love has not had his coffee yet this morning.) The compulsion went up very soon after your difficulties with Melirelle, and it appeared to be a good way to prevent future difficulties of the same sort. If Melirelle did not do it, then she did not. If she did it, then she did. It is not an accusation of any sort. It is merely another example for AK. To my knowledge, I have no followers in Khenstorn, and never had any intention of sending any.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:09 pm
by Astavyastataa Kadna
Argothoth wrote:i and Odal are still searching for lands in which settle with our undeads.

Since The Fallen is my vassal, i have his permission to settle with my undeads there.

Astalavista, i hope you understand my needs.

If you want to build a city in that territory, you are welcome.
Your undead are welcome to share this land with me ... consider joint ownership rather than one city.

After all :lol: I doubt they will need much resources for food or shelter - if it is true that they have been reanimated without their souls.

*deep bow* That was a VERY impressive necromatic action ... in all the countless worlds I have seen ... I do not think I have since its compare. Well done Master of undeath!!

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:25 pm
by Astavyastataa Kadna
Melirelle wrote: ... Is this how a God of Love is supposed to be? Accusing others, seeking their enmities, ready to judge but never to doubt his judgment, no matter what is done to prove him wrong? You go too far, God of Love - you even admitted yourself you knew Argothoth's plan and acknowledged it: for all your vaunted Love, you are accomplice to the tearing of countless souls from the afterlife while giving them no choice. The God of Death now knows your part in this.
Weary me no more with your pointless jibes, God of Nature - for no longer "God of Love" shall I call you. You are hardly as righteous as you claim to be.
Cousin Melirelle speaks the Truth ... I have been in this reality only a short time ... but I have cast my eyes along its history. I have seen no working of LOVE from this godling Bahkti (well perhaps with the WENCH, but that I name LUST! :twisted: ) In fact, we have seen more LOVE from "hugging" Mox!! And Nature ... it seems - given the God of Mutation and Malice's sucess against him - that mastery of Nature eludes him as well. I have only seen him succeed in grieving for Trees ... and endless complaining and suffering!

hmmmm... I CALL UPON the LAW and Hedra Iren ... if that is how it is done in this reality ... I put it that Bahkti should be STRIPPED of Love for he has not shown such ... and Nature ... for he has shown no Mastery ... and let him keep Forests and add Suffering ... for surely has the entire Pantheon heard his whine of Suffering ... I would also add the Domain of Unsubstantiated Accusations if there was one. What say you Hedre Iren ... or is the AllFather the only one who can move such? Surely even he has heard of Bahkti's whines. Let the crows of the AllFather take words hence ... let the AllFather let HIS intentions be known!!

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:04 pm
by O-gon-cho
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote:
Melirelle wrote: ... Is this how a God of Love is supposed to be? Accusing others, seeking their enmities, ready to judge but never to doubt his judgment, no matter what is done to prove him wrong? You go too far, God of Love - you even admitted yourself you knew Argothoth's plan and acknowledged it: for all your vaunted Love, you are accomplice to the tearing of countless souls from the afterlife while giving them no choice. The God of Death now knows your part in this.
Weary me no more with your pointless jibes, God of Nature - for no longer "God of Love" shall I call you. You are hardly as righteous as you claim to be.
Cousin Melirelle speaks the Truth ... I have been in this reality only a short time ... but I have cast my eyes along its history. I have seen no working of LOVE from this godling Bahkti (well perhaps with the WENCH, but that I name LUST! :twisted: ) In fact, we have seen more LOVE from "hugging" Mox!! And Nature ... it seems - given the God of Mutation and Malice's sucess against him - that mastery of Nature eludes him as well. I have only seen him succeed in grieving for Trees ... and endless complaining and suffering!

hmmmm... I CALL UPON the LAW and Hedra Iren ... if that is how it is done in this reality ... I put it that Bahkti should be STRIPPED of Love for he has not shown such ... and Nature ... for he has shown no Mastery ... and let him keep Forests and add Suffering ... for surely has the entire Pantheon heard his whine of Suffering ... I would also add the Domain of Unsubstantiated Accusations if there was one. What say you Hedre Iren ... or is the AllFather the only one who can move such? Surely even he has heard of Bahkti's whines. Let the crows of the AllFather take words hence ... let the AllFather let HIS intentions be known!!
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You have got to be kidding!! :roll:

Besides, the sentinal ravens have not yet been voted as viable beasts of Eiran. You rush things, cousin.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:30 pm
by Bhakti
Ah, brother AK, what would you have me do? Shall I bombard Eiran with Love, so that all will have no choice but to follow me? No deity, not even my Wife, would abide such a thing. No, Love must be chosen. All of Eiran's inhabitants choose which path to walk. Those who choose my way are encouraged to come to Shakari. Being elsewhere does not offer them protection, and they are often made to suffer for their choice. But in Shakari, they can live and Love in peace, safety, and freedom. (At least a relative amount.) Those who choose to leave me are free to do so.

As for Nature... Well, I only just had that domain thrust upon me by my followers a season ago. I am more than pleased to take it on, and had hoped to add it myself. Now I need not use Power to do so.

And I will be using Nature this turn to study the level of danger Nor Pupae's mutagens represent to the rest of the world. As per Melirelle's words, my thinking is that it may be extremely difficult to neutralize them without harming the cycles of life in Nor Pupae. With that in mind, I am hoping to learn how to cast spells that will strengthen the genetic code in a given area. Any deity who wants specific areas so strengthened can give me DRP's. I will make it so that only that deity can mutate anything in that area. (Of course, I will only do this for an area that the deity is in control of. :lol:)

At least this is my assumption and hope. We will see what I learn when I perform my inspection.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:47 pm
by Astavyastataa Kadna
O-gon-cho wrote:
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote: What GLORIOUS CHAOS and DESTRUCTION this is causing!! Drinks POWER in deeply ... and MADNESS .. Mox will be pleased!!! :twisted:
::suspicion growing:::

Cousin, you seem to rejoice in Brother Moxinomal's ascendence, more so than others. Have you taken on a vassal? Declare it if you have!
An interesting thought!

Madness is kin to CHAOS ... and both aligned would reinforce and strenthen us together!!

Perhaps! :lol: Though the JESTER is hard to pin down!! :lol: I will think on it and discuss with Mox as I grow strong enough to take a vassal ... yes ... such a move has the potential to bring us BOTH much strength in the upcoming Turns!

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:16 pm
by stonemaybe
Argothoth:
You are short of lands, and half my 'island of Thellarr lies unoccupied, and unoccupiable by the living. Perhaps your undead could thrive there?

I am also attempting to put into place other safeguards that will ease conflict between the living and the undead on Thellarr, your blessing on these actions would be appreciated.

Note: both the above assumes that Thellarr's foundations have stabilised enough for re-settlement.

Undine

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:39 pm
by O-gon-cho
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote:
O-gon-cho wrote:
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote: What GLORIOUS CHAOS and DESTRUCTION this is causing!! Drinks POWER in deeply ... and MADNESS .. Mox will be pleased!!! :twisted:
::suspicion growing:::

Cousin, you seem to rejoice in Brother Moxinomal's ascendence, more so than others. Have you taken on a vassal? Declare it if you have!
An interesting thought!

Madness is kin to CHAOS ... and both aligned would reinforce and strenthen us together!!

Perhaps! :lol: Though the JESTER is hard to pin down!! :lol: I will think on it and discuss with Mox as I grow strong enough to take a vassal ... yes ... such a move has the potential to bring us BOTH much strength in the upcoming Turns!
:|

:::like you haven't already considered it:::

Brother Argothoth, see how respected you are among many of the Pantheon. The offer to take hold in Thellar and southern Immeril, plus your intent to settle in Lomithra, should still any doubters among us.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:56 pm
by Argothoth
Stonemaybe wrote:Argothoth:
You are short of lands, and half my 'island of Thellarr lies unoccupied, and unoccupiable by the living. Perhaps your undead could thrive there?

I am also attempting to put into place other safeguards that will ease conflict between the living and the undead on Thellarr, your blessing on these actions would be appreciated.

Note: both the above assumes that Thellarr's foundations have stabilised enough for re-settlement.

Undine
My undead are peaceful, so you don't have to warry about possible conflicts. We don't attack unless attacked or if something of very important needs our first action.

I think that stay in the lands of The Fallen is the best way, unless Odal has another idea...

Ogoncho, Thank you for your words.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:01 pm
by Mistress Cathy
As for Nature... Well, I only just had that domain thrust upon me by my followers a season ago. I am more than pleased to take it on, and had hoped to add it myself. Now I need not use Power to do so.

And I will be using Nature this turn to study the level of danger Nor Pupae's mutagens represent to the rest of the world. As per Melirelle's words, my thinking is that it may be extremely difficult to neutralize them without harming the cycles of life in Nor Pupae. With that in mind, I am hoping to learn how to cast spells that will strengthen the genetic code in a given area. Any deity who wants specific areas so strengthened can give me DRP's. I will make it so that only that deity can mutate anything in that area. (Of course, I will only do this for an area that the deity is in control of. )
My goodness, dear husband, with Nature and Weather walking hand in hand, as well as wealth and love - what miracles we could bring to Eiran!

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:11 pm
by Bhakti
Indeed, my Love. :D If anybody has droughts, famines, and other nasty disasters taken care of, give us a ring!

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:15 pm
by Astavyastataa Kadna
BAH!!! I am disgusted by how anyone can fawn on that simpering tree hugger!!

I am the one suffering now ...

THEREFORE .... Hear me Pantheon ... and AllFather

I CLAIM THE DOMAIN SUFFERING!!

Let my Dogma show:

Dogma: I was before the Alpha and I AM the Omega. Those who are among the FAVORED that follow me will see the end with me ... after all others are dust and after eons have passed. CHAOS is change, evolution, the only constant. Order is stagnation, pain and then death. And destruction cleanses!! Come to me ... join my cleansing army. In the purity of DESTRUCTION! Hope to be FAVORED and see the universe end!! Or feel my wrath and inherit Chaos and Suffering to fill all your days!!

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:16 pm
by Bhakti
That seems rather unpleasant.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:24 pm
by I'm Murrin
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote:CHAOS is change, evolution, the only constant. Order is stagnation, pain and then death.
So... your opposite is pain? I thought you were the one who wanted to be that?

I must admit, after you backed down so swiftly, I did not expect you would then place yourself directly opposed to my own chosen path. Do you wish me to destroy you, or not? Do make up your mind.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:24 pm
by O-gon-cho
Cousin, I am uncertain, but I do not believe you can simply claim a domain beyond your first two. Is there not a method for obtaining additional domains prescribed by the AllFather, other than having your followers bestow a domain upon you?
Maeror wrote:
Astavyastataa Kadna wrote:CHAOS is change, evolution, the only constant. Order is stagnation, pain and then death.
So... your opposite is pain? I thought you were the one who wanted to be that?

I must admit, after you backed down so swiftly, I did not expect you would then place yourself directly opposed to my own chosen path. Do you wish me to destroy you, or not? Do make up your mind.
Sister/Brother, opposites do not necessarily have to seek to destroy one another. Argothoth and I have worked together and in harmony one to the other.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:38 pm
by Astavyastataa Kadna
Bhakti wrote:That seems rather unpleasant.
Ahhh ... you miscomprehend ... Suffering can be absorbed and removed ... as well as given. Just as you can remove Love ... all who seek the OMEGA and follow can have their Suffering removed!!

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:04 pm
by O-gon-cho
Cousin, when you remove suffering, what is put in its place? Surely suffering enables our followers to appreciate that which alleves its weight, and the things that bring joy and peace in its place.

To remove suffering so as to not feel its pain, nor the relief of that which replaces it, would that not be a sorrow upon your followers?

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:18 pm
by Astavyastataa Kadna
O-gon-cho wrote:Cousin, when you remove suffering, what is put in its place? Surely suffering enables our followers to appreciate that which alleves its weight, and the things that bring joy and peace in its place.

To remove suffering so as to not feel its pain, nor the relief of that which replaces it, would that not be a sorrow upon your followers?
Then they have but to ask ... and I can give them as much suffering as their hearts desire!! :twisted: