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Prebe wrote: Truly an excellent piece of context dependent pop-art in the best post-modernistic tradition!
Quite right, it's a caduceus. Though actually, now I can see a dragon.dlbpharmd wrote: A dragon?Strange, I've never seen a dragon in that. It's a variation of a caduceus.
The Staff of Aesculapius is a single serpent twined around a staff.Prebe wrote: I thought it was the Staff of Aesculapius DLB
...bringing up Wikipedia...caduceus?...dlbpharmd wrote:A dragon?Avatar wrote:Lucimay wrote: i'm attached to yours too, Tennesee!!in fact, i'd like to smoke yours!!
I seem to remember that mistake being made before.
Yeah, most amusing Prebe.
Anyway, I'm sticking with mine. It's unimprovable.
--A
I think that's the basis for Hyperception's avatar, but I'm probably wrong there as well...Prebe wrote:I thought it was the Staff of Aesculapius DLB. I was quite surprised to hear about the dragon as well
Edge wrote:Quite right, it's a caduceus. Though actually, now I can see a dragon.
Nope, then that's not what's on Hyperception's. I have no idea what I'm talking about. Better keep drinking my coffee...Edge wrote:The Staff of Aesculapius is a single serpent twined around a staff.
Rod of Asclepius, Confusion with the caduceus
The caduceus is often incorrectly used as a symbol for medicine or doctors, in place of the rod of Asclepius which is the usual symbol of the medical profession. A 1992 survey of American health organisations found that 62% of professional associations used the staff of Asclepius, whereas in commercial organisations, 76% used the caduceus.[5]
Early confusion between the symbols almost certainly arose due to the links between alchemy and Hermes, whose symbol is the caduceus. The alchemists adopted the caduceus because Hermes, the God of Messengers, was also the patron lord of gamblers, thieves, tricksters and alchemists. By the end of the 16th century, alchemy became widely associated with medicine in some areas, leading to some use of the caduceus as a medical symbol.[6]
The main reason for the modern confusion over the symbols occurred when the caduceus was adopted by the Medical Department of the United States Army in 1902. [1] This was brought about by one Captain Reynolds, who after having the idea rejected several times by the Surgeon General, persuaded the new incumbent (WH Forwood) to adopt it. The mistake was noticed several years later by the librarian to the surgeon general, but was not changed.[1]
There was further confusion caused by the use of the caduceus as a printer's mark (as Hermes was the god of eloquence and messengers), which appeared in many medical textbooks as a printing mark, although subsequently mistaken for a medical symbol.[1]
I'm sure that could be arranged.Menolly wrote:
Ooo...
I wonder if Hyperception's avatar could be Edgedified?
Here's the original image I reduced for his avatar:
It would give Robert Langdon a run for his money, THAT's for sureEdge wrote:Btw, that's quite the collection of symbols!
I may be Jewish but Hyperception's spirituality is a...hodgepodge. He's been using that image as his desktop on the computer in his office at UF's History department for years now...Edge wrote: Btw, that's quite the collection of symbols!
)Ive used that Avatar for a long time. That hat is EXACTLY like the one that I wear thats why I picked it as an Avatar.Lucimay wrote:ooooh but SB!!! i love the dozing cowboy!!!
(always thought that was ironic, dozing cowboy with the
name of a storm!
I know what you mean cause I've seen it!!!Lucimay wrote:its a lot like the one i wear too, except mine is...shorter...shallower...
bah...i don't know how to describe that. you know what i mean?
Thanks for the info - it's the connection between alchemy to medicine/pharmacy that I was going after (although the tip about Hermes also being the God of gamblers and thieves interests mePrebe wrote:Brace yourselves for some hard trivia:
According to Wiki:Rod of Asclepius, Confusion with the caduceus
The caduceus is often incorrectly used as a symbol for medicine or doctors, in place of the rod of Asclepius which is the usual symbol of the medical profession. A 1992 survey of American health organisations found that 62% of professional associations used the staff of Asclepius, whereas in commercial organisations, 76% used the caduceus.[5]
Early confusion between the symbols almost certainly arose due to the links between alchemy and Hermes, whose symbol is the caduceus. The alchemists adopted the caduceus because Hermes, the God of Messengers, was also the patron lord of gamblers, thieves, tricksters and alchemists. By the end of the 16th century, alchemy became widely associated with medicine in some areas, leading to some use of the caduceus as a medical symbol.[6]
The main reason for the modern confusion over the symbols occurred when the caduceus was adopted by the Medical Department of the United States Army in 1902. [1] This was brought about by one Captain Reynolds, who after having the idea rejected several times by the Surgeon General, persuaded the new incumbent (WH Forwood) to adopt it. The mistake was noticed several years later by the librarian to the surgeon general, but was not changed.[1]
There was further confusion caused by the use of the caduceus as a printer's mark (as Hermes was the god of eloquence and messengers), which appeared in many medical textbooks as a printing mark, although subsequently mistaken for a medical symbol.[1]
.)And then when they made Snakes on a Plane, all hell broke loose.Prebe wrote:Brace yourselves for some hard trivia:
According to Wiki:Rod of Asclepius, Confusion with the caduceus
The caduceus is often incorrectly used as a symbol for medicine or doctors, in place of the rod of Asclepius which is the usual symbol of the medical profession. A 1992 survey of American health organisations found that 62% of professional associations used the staff of Asclepius, whereas in commercial organisations, 76% used the caduceus.[5]
Early confusion between the symbols almost certainly arose due to the links between alchemy and Hermes, whose symbol is the caduceus. The alchemists adopted the caduceus because Hermes, the God of Messengers, was also the patron lord of gamblers, thieves, tricksters and alchemists. By the end of the 16th century, alchemy became widely associated with medicine in some areas, leading to some use of the caduceus as a medical symbol.[6]
The main reason for the modern confusion over the symbols occurred when the caduceus was adopted by the Medical Department of the United States Army in 1902. [1] This was brought about by one Captain Reynolds, who after having the idea rejected several times by the Surgeon General, persuaded the new incumbent (WH Forwood) to adopt it. The mistake was noticed several years later by the librarian to the surgeon general, but was not changed.[1]
There was further confusion caused by the use of the caduceus as a printer's mark (as Hermes was the god of eloquence and messengers), which appeared in many medical textbooks as a printing mark, although subsequently mistaken for a medical symbol.[1]
