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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:21 pm
by Simjen
So long as the king respects the borders of other sovereign nations and people, then I have no problem with that. Indeed, we share a similar philosophy... though our visions of its execution differ dramatically.
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:24 pm
by Injerian Praetus II
Simjen wrote:Indeed, we share a similar philosophy... though our visions of its execution differ dramatically.
That we do.
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:55 pm
by Bhakti
Nor Yekith wrote:Simjen wrote:So, say it plainly. Will you keep your transmutations to your own lands and people?
I appreciate your need to clarify matters, like Maeror, so I will make my statement clear.
I intend to transform all life within the borders of the King's realm.
*sigh* How long must we dance like this? Say it
more plainly. Exactly what do you intend the borders of the King's realm to contain?
Nor Yekith wrote:Love is a means to maintain the growth of populations. This suits me.
But it is only a small part of Love. Not that I blame you for such an attitude. After all, I cannot envision all aspects of Malice.
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:11 am
by Injerian Praetus II
Bhakti wrote:How long must we dance like this? Say it more plainly. Exactly what do you intend the borders of the King's realm to contain?
That is for the King to answer. As I said, he will sail to your lands to meet you.
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:57 am
by Bhakti
Nor Yekith wrote:Bhakti wrote:How long must we dance like this? Say it more plainly. Exactly what do you intend the borders of the King's realm to contain?
That is for the King to answer. As I said, he will sail to your lands to meet you.
Again, you evade the answer. Does your prophet
not act to carry out your desires? What are your desires?
In any event, he will not meet me, nor any of my followers, unless he successfully invades my lands.
Actually, I am feeling less safe about your people's presence near my lands all the time. For the safety of my people, I must push our meeting place back a bit when you come to claim your Houka. I will have a ship wait for you at sea. It will be within sight of my people in the lighthouse on Ayre. It will be on the straight line between Ayre and the nearest tip of land of Khenstorn, which lies south-southwest of Ayre. When our ships sight each other, mine will signal Ayre, and you must stop yours. When you do, smaller boats will tow a boat containing your Houka. Your Houka will be bound, securely, but comfortably. When the Houka are sufficient distance from my ship, my people will attach a knife to a rope that will be dangling from the boat containing the Houka. They will be bound in such a way that, without being able to escape
without the knife, they will be able to pull it in, free themselves, and row to
your ship. At which point you should begin sailing
away from my lands.
Of course, I will have sentries at other points along the shore, on the water, etc.
If you want your Houka back, this is the only way I offer them. If you agree,
any deviation - and, really, your part is
extremely simple - will be considered an aggressive move. If you have more than one ship, it will be assumed to be an invading fleet. If you
do come with only one ship, and it moves toward mine, it will be considered an attack. If any ships are within sight of my lands, it will be assumed to be an invasion. (Your previous invasion and kidnappings proved that you have competent navigators, so "I accidentally went off course" will not be an acceptable excuse.) If any of your people attempt any sort of communication with my people, it will be assumed to be an attempt at some form of mind-control.
If you do
not want your Houka back, then our business is already concluded. Surprisingly, this presents no problem. They are not as miserable among my people as I assumed they would be.
So the question is - Do you want your Houka back?
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:00 am
by Injerian Praetus II
On second thoughts, keep the Houka. I refuse to deal with you after listening to this paranoid nonsense. I attempted to deal with you honourably and here you slap me in the face with your suspicion.
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:03 am
by Bhakti
Excellent. Thank you.
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:34 am
by Vadhaka
Simjen wrote:So long as the king respects the borders of other sovereign nations and people, then I have no problem with that.
Agreed.
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:42 am
by Bhakti
Vadhaka wrote:Simjen wrote:So long as the king respects the borders of other sovereign nations and people, then I have no problem with that.
Agreed.
Not that Nor is willing to give the
slightest assurance that that is the case...
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:41 am
by Injerian Praetus II
Bhakti wrote:Vadhaka wrote:Simjen wrote:So long as the king respects the borders of other sovereign nations and people, then I have no problem with that.
Agreed.
Not that Nor is willing to give the
slightest assurance that that is the case...
The King recognises all borders and assures me that he will not send his armies to invade other realms. He has no intention of waging a war in which the
Royal Armies of the Kingdom will become armed for protracted warfare or will suffer casualties. The
Royal Armies' role is
purely defensive. As such, they are armed and trained in that capacity.
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:49 pm
by I'm Murrin
Henceforth, the souls of the dead shall be held for the span of one turn after judgement before it takes effect. This will allow me to prevent mistakes, and give me time to hear your requests if you wish a soul returned to you.
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:47 am
by Injerian Praetus II
I am announcing that I am entering into an alliance with Queeaqueg - for the mutual benefit and protection of our realms. As such, I have been marching an army for his use this past week. In doing so, I approve of all actions he takes and will support his aims. It is our hope that we both profit from the alliance.
Second, Chisi La'Roo, I will sign that non-aggression pact providing you fulfil your terms of the contract. If so, I will openly agree to the pact here - as long as it is ratified by one of the deities. May all gods and realms flourish on this continent, and may we embrace an age of peace and good will here.
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:23 pm
by Queeaqueg
What a momentous day, Brothers. The great Treaty of Khenstorn has just been signed where the three ruling Power Houses have announced undying harmony and collaboration with each other. I hope this day will show the world of our intentions for everlasting peace and innovation. May the future be bright for the land of Khenstorn and the World.
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:52 pm
by Benito Alvarez
Nor Yekith wrote:I am announcing that I am entering into an alliance with Queeaqueg - for the mutual benefit and protection of our realms. As such, I have been marching an army for his use this past week. In doing so, I approve of all actions he takes and will support his aims. It is our hope that we both profit from the alliance.
Second, Chisi La'Roo, I will sign that non-aggression pact providing you fulfil your terms of the contract. If so, I will openly agree to the pact here - as long as it is ratified by one of the deities. May all gods and realms flourish on this continent, and may we embrace an age of peace and good will here.
Will you support aggressive actions by Quee's Army??
Also, is the treaty open for the Pantheon to see?
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:29 pm
by Chisi La'Roo
I understand, Lord Adamorn, that your first question is not directed at me. However, I'd like to ask... What aggressive actions by Queeaqueg ? What has he done to spark any sort of distrust from his brothers? I understand that it may be seen as naive to assume that the God of War wants anything but to exert his domain over the world, but can war not be use solely to protect? Must it be a domain of aggression? I would argue that War is not an inherently aggressive or evil domain. Can not Love be used to tear people and even cities asunder? Can Luck not be used to curse another's enemies? Even Justice can be taken to a level where it is no longer a tool for good.
In short, for Luck's sake, don't condemn Queeaqueg for being what he is. Judge him for what he does.
To answer your second question, I see no need to share the treaty with anyone outside of it's influence, but it will be discussed.
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:04 pm
by Norn
Nor Yekith has already said he supports Queeaqueg in whatever he chooses to do with the army provided. Will you do the same? If Queeaqueg does use the army to wage war, will you support his actions?
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:29 pm
by Chisi La'Roo
The pact that was signed was one of non-agression. Nothing more has been discussed between myself and Queeaqueg or myself and Nor Yekith.
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:06 pm
by Injerian Praetus II
Chisi La'Roo wrote:I understand, Lord Adamorn, that your first question is not directed at me. However, I'd like to ask... What aggressive actions by Queeaqueg ? What has he done to spark any sort of distrust from his brothers? I understand that it may be seen as naive to assume that the God of War wants anything but to exert his domain over the world, but can war not be use solely to protect? Must it be a domain of aggression? I would argue that War is not an inherently aggressive or evil domain. Can not Love be used to tear people and even cities asunder? Can Luck not be used to curse another's enemies? Even Justice can be taken to a level where it is no longer a tool for good.
In short, for Luck's sake, don't condemn Queeaqueg for being what he is. Judge him for what he does.
To answer your second question, I see no need to share the treaty with anyone outside of it's influence, but it will be discussed.
Well said, Lady of Luck.
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:07 pm
by Injerian Praetus II
Lord Adomorn wrote:Also, is the treaty open for the Pantheon to see?
As I wrote earlier, I want another deity to ratify the agreement.
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:52 am
by Benito Alvarez
It was not my intent to sling around any sort of accusations, there was just a line that had me thinking:
Nor Yekith wrote:As such, I have been marching an army for his use this past week. In doing so, I approve of all actions he takes and will support his aims.
The aims of a God of War? This makes me ponder
what war will be started and for
what purposes.
Nor Yekith wrote:As I wrote earlier, I want another deity to ratify the agreement.
I am more than happy to ratify the agreement. Who better than the arbiter of Justice?