Battlestar Galactica Season 4-Expect Spoilers

Post by **The Dreaming** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:26 am

Did anyone notice that Danial, as described by Ellen, has all of the attributes Baltar lacks? Maybe the warping of his line by Cavil gave us the Baltar we know and love today. I think he might be a Danial that Cavil dropped on earth as another phase in his petty cruelty.

Post by **The Dreaming** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:07 pm

Sorry for the double post - but this is worthy of a cheap bump. Just happened to find this on the BSG website.

www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/index.ph ... als&clip=2

Joe Adama and ...Danial Greystone. Is there a connection?

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:14 pm

Wow!! Pretty cool trailer!! Thanks.

Post by **iQuestor** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:41 am

In the last episode, didn't Cara Thrace react to Daniel's name - something like, "Daniel? Are you sure about the word?"

Anyone else notice the Brain guy was none other than the PC from the Apple commercials???

Post by **The Dreaming** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:00 am

Yeah, I'm a pretty big fan of John Hodgeman (he's also a daily show correspondent). It was a pretty neat Cameo, added a little flavor to an episode that was mostly exposition. (albeit very excited and much needed exposition!)

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:08 pm

The Dreaming wrote:Sorry for the double post - but this is worthy of a cheap bump. Just happened to find this on the BSG website.

www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/index.ph ... als&clip=2

Joe Adama and ...Danial Greystone. Is there a connection?

Looks good - initially I wasn't too interested in a prequel, but this actually looks OK.

Post by **sindatur** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:47 pm

dlbpharmd wrote:
The Dreaming wrote:Sorry for the double post - but this is worthy of a cheap bump. Just happened to find this on the BSG website.

www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/index.ph ... als&clip=2

Joe Adama and ...Danial Greystone. Is there a connection?
Looks good - initially I wasn't too interested in a prequel, but this actually looks OK.

Daniel Greystone apparently

Spoiler

created the Hybrids, so it could certainly be that he is Model 7 Daniel

Not sure if that's a spoiler or already given to us in the series proper?

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:17 pm

We just learned that, before the Final Five reached the colonies, the colonies had only managed to make Centurians, who were at war with their human creators. The Centurians had also started trying to make organics, and the hybrids were what they had accomplished. When they arrived, the Final Five told the Centurians that, if they (Centurians) stopped the war, they (F5) would help them make organics. Daniel was one of the eight models of organics the F5 made.

Post by **sindatur** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:34 pm

Fist and Faith wrote:We just learned that, before the Final Five reached the colonies, the colonies had only managed to make Centurians, who were at war with their human creators. The Centurians had also started trying to make organics, and the hybrids were what they had accomplished. When they arrived, the Final Five told the Centurians that, if they (Centurians) stopped the war, they (F5) would help them make organics. Daniel was one of the eight models of organics the F5 made.

Yea, I absorbed all that (and boy was there alot to absorb in this past episode), but, I wasn't sure that Daniel Greystone was actually revealed to be the Hybrid creator, or that he was model #7 Daniel. Now the question remains how, since Ellen gave me the impression that Model #7 Daniel never made it out of the goo bath.

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:41 pm

Ah! Duh. I hadn't thought of the possibility of there being two entirely different characters named Daniel.

IIRC, Ellen said #7 Daniel was an artist. So I guess he was an adult too, and Cavil poisoned the amniotic fluid where his clone bodies were grown. When the current Daniel died, that was that.

Post by **High Lord Tolkien** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:43 pm

So.....
Humanity started on Kobol and made Cylons:
[why did they leave Kobol again?]

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:49 pm

Probably had the same war on Kobol that happened on Earth and in the Colonies.

Post by **sindatur** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:10 pm

High Lord Tolkien wrote:So.....
Humanity started on Kobol and made Cylons:
[why did they leave Kobol again?]

Civil War, I believe

Post by **sindatur** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:23 am

Fist and Faith wrote:Ah! Duh. I hadn't thought of the possibility of there being two entirely different characters named Daniel.

IIRC, Ellen said #7 Daniel was an artist. So I guess he was an adult too, and Cavil poisoned the amniotic fluid where his clone bodies were grown. When the current Daniel died, that was that.

Oh, there apparently has been a Daniel already shown in the Series. Bulldog, the Black Guy who Adama sent over the Cylon line back in the day, who escaped and returned to Galactica, while they were on the run was apparently named Daniel. Read that on another site, someone hwo read it on a Website called Frak or something similar.

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:32 am

Wow! That's a bit of trivia I never wouldn't have come up with!!!

But then, maybe it's not trivia!! Maybe that's #7!

Post by **sindatur** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:59 pm

Fist and Faith wrote:Wow! That's a bit of trivia I never wouldn't have come up with!!!

But then, maybe it's not trivia!! Maybe that's #7!

Yea, me too, that's one I never kept track of either (I do pride myself though on always knowing #7 was missing (The known 7 run from 1-8, with no model #7). Many people think a mysterious missing #7 came out of thin air.

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:55 pm

sindatur wrote:
Fist and Faith wrote:Wow! That's a bit of trivia I never wouldn't have come up with!!!

But then, maybe it's not trivia!! Maybe that's #7!
Yea, me too, that's one I never kept track of either (I do pride myself though on always knowing #7 was missing (The known 7 run from 1-8, with no model #7). Many people think a mysterious missing #7 came out of thin air.

See, I never caught that. I always assumed that one of the Final Five was model #7.

Post by **High Lord Tolkien** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:05 pm

dlbpharmd wrote:
sindatur wrote:
Fist and Faith wrote:Wow! That's a bit of trivia I never wouldn't have come up with!!!

But then, maybe it's not trivia!! Maybe that's #7!
Yea, me too, that's one I never kept track of either (I do pride myself though on always knowing #7 was missing (The known 7 run from 1-8, with no model #7). Many people think a mysterious missing #7 came out of thin air.
See, I never caught that. I always assumed that one of the Final Five was model #7.

Me too!
So there are 13 models?

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:14 pm

Post by **sindatur** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:15 pm

High Lord Tolkien wrote:
dlbpharmd wrote:
sindatur wrote: Yea, me too, that's one I never kept track of either (I do pride myself though on always knowing #7 was missing (The known 7 run from 1-8, with no model #7). Many people think a mysterious missing #7 came out of thin air.
See, I never caught that. I always assumed that one of the Final Five was model #7.

Me too!
So there are 13 models?

Yup, 7 regular skin jobs
Cavil #1,
Doral #2, 4 or 5,
D'Anna #3 ,
Leoban #2, 4, or 5,
the Dr #2, 4, or 5,
Six/Natalie/Caprica #6,
and Sharon #8
(Models 1-8, not sure I have Doral, Leobon and the Dr in the right order)

5 Final Five (Ellen, Tigh, Tori, Anders, Tyrol)

And a Daniel in a Goo Bath (#7)

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