Kevin's Watch

Seafoam Understone wrote:My first thought would be that SRD fanatics would be yelling COP OUT COP OUT... BUT!! that is a good way to do that. With the scene at Manhome utilizing the flashbacks "...he done THAT to her?"

Something like that, yeah. That's what I was trying to get at.

Seafoam Understone wrote:Theo you said

"My" LFB movie would certainly not be a "Hollywoodoo blockbuster-romantic-happy-ending movie", but I would want to make it a rousing fantasy adventure, though with a dark, dreamlike quality.

Are you writing one? I'm right now in the middle of researching (yes folks even novels have to be researched to write a proper script) and will be using THIS site quite frequently as the screen play gets written... even bits and pieces of it will be shown here so it's not gonna be a "top-secret" no-one knows kind of thing... and yes... credit will be given where it's due as always with me. Personal psych profile said I hated the limelight.

No, I'm not actually writing a LFB script. This has so far been an exercise in idle speculation - one of my prime talents - though I admit that the idea has starting to become perversely interesting. But I've got tons of other creative projects that really need to get done first, including a bunch of short stories - most of this is related to the long-running LARP (live-action role-playing) campaign I'm gamemastering. (Incidentally, it's the same one Ylva Kresh's been mentioning and as she pointed out, it does contain a few Donaldsonesque themes if you know where to look. )

I certainly wouldn't mind continuing to bounce ideas, though.

Take care,
Theo

**Regarding the casting of Thomas Covenant himself, I would be very much in favour of Gary Oldman as he has many of Covenant's traits IN REAL LIFE!!! He's a truly tortured soul by his own admission and can play truly dark characters. He has the age thing down, he does a very capable American accent. I'd be worried that he isn't tall enough perhaps. Just look at the anguish on his face as Jack Dougherty in Romeo Is Bleeding when he realised he had just killed his mistress played by Juliette Lewis. Hang on! She might make a good Lena as she has that dreamy naive/innocent sort of behaviour! Cool This is fun!

** I agree the rape is integral and must stay but should only be shown in some form of flashback or depicted only in the reactions and faces of Trell, Atiaran and Triock.

** I'd like that actor Oded Fehr (Ardeth Bey from The Mummy/Returns) to play Sunder. I've always considered him dark skinned and a dark souled character.

More to follow as I start thinking a lot about this stuff. Must read the books again! Roll on The Last Chronicles!!

I've favored Daniel Day-Lewis for Covenant ever since I heard he came out of retirement. Here I find Amani insisting on DD-L. What's the word for the same inspiration striking in two different places?

Ralph Fiennes for Mhoram, brilliant suggestion. I noticed in Maid In Manhattan that he's getting to Mhoram's age. I think of Mhoram as a little darker in complexion, but that's easily remedied, if need be, as we can see in Wuthering Heights. If you give high priority to the nose, he's got that, too. The exigencies of Mhoram's life would be no problem, he eats that kind of role for dessert.

For Elena, I stick as repetitively to Cate Blanchett, as Amani has to DD-L. She has power in so many different moods. Remember her as the queen in FOTR?

Foamfollower. I continue to choose Keith Hamilton Cobb, "Tyr" in Andromeda. Not just because he's huge. He has a far wider range than he has been allowed to show anywhere but in Eyes Beyond Seeing. That little-known movie about a man who thinks he is Jesus is a true showcase of his talents.

Triock. Brendan Fraser. The right physical type, and IMO he seems meant to dedicate himself to one woman and the responsibilities of his community. But he can also play bitterness when those things go wrong.

For Lord Loerya, assigned in IW to defend Revelstone because her daughters were there, I like Linda Hamilton. With her intensity and her combination of strength and vulnerability, I can find a part for her in just about any movie. She likes maternal roles.

The 1st Chronicles have so many meaty roles in the age group where good actresses generally have trouble finding parts. I'm looking at Stockard Channing this minute. She would be excellent as Atiaran.

I don't want to go on too long.

Joy

Good choices one and all... but again it depends upon the picture's budget. If the studio(s) allotted a sizable amount then these high profile names could be cast...if they so choose.

Would you believe that I read somewhere that someone had thought of casting Jackie Chan as Bannor? I thought it was humorous at first myself too, but thought twice about it. Chan is a good actor and capable of being serious when the part calls for it. Yes he enjoys a good rousing bit of fun with nearly all of his movies...it's what made him so popular.
Physically the man is in superb shape and could bulk up more if it was felt that the Haruchai need to be stout... why not because they're mountain folk after all.
As a Martial Artist he has the skills to show Bannor at his fighting best. As an actor I believe he's talented enough to show the unemotional side of the Haruchai and do it well. But if not Bannor then Brinn.
The name Haruchai has an Asian quality to it. Chow Yung Fat would likewise make a good Haruchai and other quality Asian actors like Jet Li and they have ready made fighting skills and probably could devise a system of fighting style(s) exclusive to the Haruchai. There's still not enough of them marketed in the "western" cinema as it is. Personally I see nothing wrong with it.
I do agree as well that the people of the land needs to be diverse in racial aspects. SRD does provide some hint as to skin-color but in this day and age having a balance of different races wouldn't hurt the movie. LOTR was nearly exclusively white/caucasian actors.

Seafoam Understone wrote:it depends upon the picture's budget.

Nah, it just depends on the imagination. The casting game is "an exercise in idle speculation," (your words), so we can set it up to please ourselves. Preproduction is the time to start worrying about dollars.

I do agree as well that the people of the land needs to be diverse in racial aspects. SRD does provide some hint as to skin-color but in this day and age having a balance of different races wouldn't hurt the movie.

Whoever has the qualities for the part. I like Chow Yun-Fat for Bannor myself, but that's because I haven't seen him do comedy. Also for his strong screen presence and the hint of melancholy that comes through when he isn't guarding against it. He would need that for TPTP.

Chow Yun Fat would make a better Bannor, I think.

I've said it before and I'll say it again...Mark Dacascos from "Brotherhood of the Wolf" would make a great Haruchai.

Last night while working on the script inspiration struck me. Lena was introducing herself to TC and Trell's name came up. I sat back and tried to envison what Trell would look like. BAM! Why the hell not?

Robbie Coltrane from the HP movies (Hagrid) ... He's a big guy already but imagine him at his normal height 6'-1" but with short hair and shorter beard.

Also thought of Julianne Moore (Hannibal) for Atiaran. She's a strong actress and could carry it off pretty well. They do wonderful things with hair dyes and/or wigs now-a-days.

robbie coltrane would be perfect!! lol, excellent thinking...

jackie chan as bannor, lol

Forestal wrote:robbie coltrane would be perfect!! lol, excellent thinking...

jackie chan as bannor, lol

Inspired thinking actually. But thanks.

Ya, it's a giggle to think of Chan being Bannor because we associate him and his movies with comedy. But if you watch him he does have capacity to be serious and remain so. He has a good solid face and his physique is solid as well to carry off the part dressed in the short tunics of the Haruchai. Likewise the guy is gutsy enough to do some pretty crazy moves on the screen.

Chow-yung-fat is another good choice as well as Mark Dacasos from the Wolf movie... (saw it and was blown away by the MA he does in the first ten minutes...so cool).

Now I guess it all depends upon availability.

Bannor is a major speaking part (particularly in TPTP so an actor would have to be able to deliver the lines as well as carry off the flat intonation of the Haruchai. Same goes for Brinn.

Love this speculation. Now if we can all pitch in and get about 100 million dollars we produce the movie ourselves... here's ...uhh... my .17 cents to start out with... (hey it's all I got right now). Who's next?

I've said it before and I'll say it again...Mark Dacascos from "Brotherhood of the Wolf" would make a great Haruchai.

YES! That's a perfect choice, Brinn! I'm glad you mentioned him - he was so captivating in that movie.

And Joy! Tyr is a brilliant choice for Foamfollower, one which I wouldn't have thought of, but now that you mention it...

-Michelle

Michelle!! Welcome, glad you made it!!

Did you ever see Eyes Beyond Seeing? Cobb (Tyr) shows a marvelous acting range as the star of Eyes. He encompasses everything from despair to bonhomme. It's even easy to see his image metaphosed to the Pure One.

Delayed by the fact that in looking for the title of the Pure One, I found myself reading the Coercri Caamora again...

Eh, Tyr's not bad, but he's still got way too much of the soap opera vibe for my tastes.

After seeing him in Andromeda? The casting directors are nuts to leave him working in soap operas. I want to see him play the lead in Tom Clancy's WITHOUT REMORSE.

"Mark Dacascos from "Brotherhood of the Wolf" would make a great Haruchai."

Without a doubt...he IS Brinn!

In the early-mid 1980's, SRD visited Australia and I heard him speak. During the Q&A he was asked about the books being filmed and his passionate response was that absolutely no one would be making a film of his books and he didn't want them screwed over.

Does anyone know if his opinion has changed?

Mistweave wrote:In the early-mid 1980's, SRD visited Australia and I heard him speak. During the Q&A he was asked about the books being filmed and his passionate response was that absolutely no one would be making a film of his books and he didn't want them screwed over.

Does anyone know if his opinion has changed?

Never knew he came out here, though I would only have been about 13 at the time and probably still reading Alfred Hitchcock and the Three Investigators

Dunno if his opinion has changed, probably doubt it, though.

(requested bump! )

I was thinking yesterday, I hadn't heard anything from this thread in a while. It's a popular topic for new members especially -- first one I went to -- and it's nice to have it back up where it can be seen.

We haven't done much casting in the 2nd Chrons. I was thinking Sean Penn would be good to put somewhere prominent in the Clave. Or maybe as Hamako, the human who joined the Waynhim.

TCTC arent nearly as well known as LOTR, and i think that when people saw the previews for it and all, theyd just think it was a ripoff, and wouldnt even realise it was an actual series...theyd think that since the Rings came first in the series, that it would just be a cheap knockoff...


id like to see this as anime, though, a la Lodoss War...