Kevin's Watch

Unruly children, all of you

Well, back to the rules tweaking for Pantheon 3.0...

The AllFather wrote:Unruly children, all of you

Who me???

The AllFather wrote:Well, back to the rules tweaking for Pantheon 3.0...

:::still hoping for 2.0 to continue:::

I am a stubborn little git...

Allright, so Pantheon 2.0 continues. Lore hasn't stated whether he wants to give Nor a grand sendoff or not, so for now I'll have to assume Nor went out with a "Poof!".

This does not mean that Nor's lands, followers and possessions disappear: Nor Pupae remains, and so does Yekithii. The Star of Yekith still shines in the sky. Whatever monstrosities have been breeding beneath its pall are still there. The mutagens he spewed in the waters and which Undine froze are still there. And so on. However, any ongoing plans of Nor Yekith's are stopped as they were: for example, there's no need to fear a worldwide mutation - UNLESS Nor gave the order last turn and it took a whole turn to implement.

Please keep in mind that this is not the same as when Lore took a break; Nor Pupae and Yekithii are now open to attack, if that's what you want, for example. All of Nor Yekith's worshipers revert to unaligned followers, except for those who had "lesser patrons" as well (such as Melirelle or Argothoth), and who will become their worshipers at the end of this turn.

Incidentally, keep in mind that this means that attacking Nor Pupae now might turn out to be an attack on Argothoth's or Melirelle's new lands by the beginning of next turn.

Xar wrote:...Incidentally, keep in mind that this means that attacking Nor Pupae now might turn out to be an attack on Argothoth's ...

So if Argothoth attacks ... he is beating up ... HIMSELF!!

Astavyastataa Kadna wrote:

Xar wrote:...Incidentally, keep in mind that this means that attacking Nor Pupae now might turn out to be an attack on Argothoth's ...

So if Argothoth attacks ... he is beating up ... HIMSELF!!

Might be, might be... or it might be that he'll beat up Melirelle, or it might be that he'll beat up Odal Heck, if he's not specific enough in his orders, he might end up beating Adomorn!

The AllFather wrote:Allright, so Pantheon 2.0 continues. Lore hasn't stated whether he wants to give Nor a grand sendoff or not, so for now I'll have to assume Nor went out with a "Poof!".

This does not mean that Nor's lands, followers and possessions disappear: Nor Pupae remains, and so does Yekithii.

:::grumble, grumble:::

My beautiful southern Immeril...

The AllFather wrote:Please keep in mind that this is not the same as when Lore took a break; Nor Pupae and Yekithii are now open to attack, if that's what you want, for example.

It's not what I want. If anyone has any ideas how to revert Yekithii back to the southern Immeril of pre-three Turns ago, without causing further harm to the peoples or the land, contact me. That is all I want for that region.

The AllFather wrote:All of Nor Yekith's worshipers revert to unaligned followers, except for those who had "lesser patrons" as well (such as Melirelle or Argothoth), and who will become their worshipers at the end of this turn.

Nor Yekith did have his own draconic followers, didn't he? He never gave me any confirmation on that although I had heard rumors...

The AllFather wrote:

Astavyastataa Kadna wrote:

Xar wrote:...Incidentally, keep in mind that this means that attacking Nor Pupae now might turn out to be an attack on Argothoth's ...

So if Argothoth attacks ... he is beating up ... HIMSELF!!

Might be, might be... or it might be that he'll beat up Melirelle, or it might be that he'll beat up Odal Heck, if he's not specific enough in his orders, he might end up beating Adomorn!

I'm getting dizzy attempting to keep track of minor intrigues, twists and turns.



How do y'all who meddle in everything keep track of it all???

Xar wrote:Might be, might be... or it might be that he'll beat up Melirelle, or it might be that he'll beat up Odal

Oh, the horror of either of those possibilities!!! How terribly *yawn* upsetting it would be!

O-gon-cho wrote:

The AllFather wrote:Allright, so Pantheon 2.0 continues. Lore hasn't stated whether he wants to give Nor a grand sendoff or not, so for now I'll have to assume Nor went out with a "Poof!".

This does not mean that Nor's lands, followers and possessions disappear: Nor Pupae remains, and so does Yekithii.

:::grumble, grumble:::

My beautiful southern Immeril...

Maeror, sufficiently powered, can use his domain of HEALTH to reverse the mutation. Perhaps he can be convinced to help!

Bhakti wrote:

Xar wrote:Might be, might be... or it might be that he'll beat up Melirelle, or it might be that he'll beat up Odal

Oh, the horror of either of those possibilities!!! How terribly *yawn* upsetting it would be!

Astavyastataa Kadna wrote:

O-gon-cho wrote:

The AllFather wrote:Allright, so Pantheon 2.0 continues. Lore hasn't stated whether he wants to give Nor a grand sendoff or not, so for now I'll have to assume Nor went out with a "Poof!".

This does not mean that Nor's lands, followers and possessions disappear: Nor Pupae remains, and so does Yekithii.

:::grumble, grumble:::

My beautiful southern Immeril...

Maeror, sufficiently powered, can use his domain of HEALTH to reverse the mutation. Perhaps he can be convinced to help!

:::eyes alight:::

Do you mean her domain of Healing cousin? Would it truly work? Would it be enough?

Xar wrote: Might be, might be... or it might be that he'll beat up Melirelle, or it might be that he'll beat up Odal Heck, if he's not specific enough in his orders, he might end up beating Adomorn!

Ahh...crap.

Murrin wrote:I've just accidentally deleted my entire PM inbox.
I don't think it's possible to undo that.

I received a PM just as it happened, but it was deleted, so I don't know who it was from (I received one just afterward from Xar, so it wasn't him).

Did you get mine about the move?

I guess now is the time to make a public apology to Menolly and Argothoth. Sorry guys. I didn't mean to attack you both or make you feel depressed or angry. I guess I just didn't like the idea of the whole pantheon suddenly ganging up on me when there was no chance for me to stand strong, plus, I have no living allies (that is, players as allies). All of you now are in that position, and I guess it kind of is sad for me. Plus, I had a nice story about Nor, but now that his Fifth Column strategy is gone, that's gone as well.

Anyway, Nor wont be back. As I said before, I'm not the sort of person who works well these games.

Now, something else I have to get off my chest (not bad!). Some of your pms mentioned plans Nor Yekith had - assassination attempts, etc - and that this had been passed on to the deity of interest. Well, I had wanted that to happen (I was trying to initiate a war against me). Nor has always been about disambiguation about his real intent - and only one other person knows what Nor's ultimate plan was - it was never mutation of world. But from day one I deliberately mislead other gods and often would pm players with the intent of misdirecting them. Anyway, just saying that I am aware stuff Nor said in private was passed on.

I like the idea of a mad Adomorn. Spices things up a bit.

Loremaster wrote:I guess now is the time to make a public apology to Menolly and Argothoth. Sorry guys. I didn't mean to attack you both or make you feel depressed or angry.

Thanks Lore. That's appreciated.

Please understand that I am unsure of exactly what I did, but whatever it was, I will accept full responsibility for it. And know that I will not let it affect the friendship you and I have outside of the Game.

Balon wrote:

Murrin wrote:I've just accidentally deleted my entire PM inbox.
I don't think it's possible to undo that.

I received a PM just as it happened, but it was deleted, so I don't know who it was from (I received one just afterward from Xar, so it wasn't him).

Did you get mine about the move?

I'm pretty sure I only missed one PM, and I know who that was from now, so I'll have gotten all of yours.

Just a few clarifications:

1) The compulsion that surrounds Khenstorn isn't Nor Yekith's. I can't reveal how it was originated, but it doesn't stink of Malice or Mutation. And it cannot be only partially removed: it is either wholly removed or not removed at all.

2) If you want to know whether the AllFather is supportive or not of Vadhaka's idea, you'll have to ask - and the only known way to do so is for a god to enter the Mists seeking the AllFather. Unfortunately, Simjen knows (and as I recall, shared with most of you) the price of such a quest.

3) I'm not sure if O-gon-cho knows it or not, but just to clarify - the Star of Yekith ONLY covers Nor Pupae; it doesn't cover Immeril.

I have been waited a long time to write something about the betrayal and something to Loremaster/Yekith/Michael.

I know english not very well and i always fear to be misunderstood.

Anyway, i will try to explain my thoughts.

Michael, i'm sorry, really. I didn't even imagined what could be your reaction to that betrayal.
I thought that you simply passed on this, preparing a huge counterstrike against the other gods, trying to finde a way to hit me hard for my insolence.
I thought that you could find my "double agent role" something of Good Role Playing. Instead you had a bad reaction to this, and i'm so sorry because i never caused a player to quit the game due to my actions. Xar and others people told me that my actions wasn't the reason for your leaving, but all the things started from this and i'm so sad, and sorry, for what is happened.

I hope you still think at me as a good guy nothing of personal was in my action, i played only argothoth as i would he was.

I hope that all the people in this forum do not think at me as someone that like to "waste" the game of the other people.

I hope you all understand my english and my reason

Xar wrote: 3) I'm not sure if O-gon-cho knows it or not, but just to clarify - the Star of Yekith ONLY covers Nor Pupae; it doesn't cover Immeril.

Yeah, yeah, yeah...I understand this. I just find it's existance offensive, even if it is not a natural star. I want it's Light distorting effects gone, and it's presence out of the skies/Air.

Argothoth wrote: I hope you all understand my english and my reason

You and me both, buddy.

Argothoth wrote:I have been waited a long time to write something about the betrayal and something to Loremaster/Yekith/Michael.

I know english not very well and i always fear to be misunderstood.

Anyway, i will try to explain my thoughts.

Michael, i'm sorry, really. I didn't even imagined what could be your reaction to that betrayal.
I thought that you simply passed on this, preparing a huge counterstrike against the other gods, trying to finde a way to hit me hard for my insolence.
I thought that you could find my "double agent role" something of Good Role Playing. Instead you had a bad reaction to this, and i'm so sorry because i never caused a player to quit the game due to my actions. Xar and others people told me that my actions wasn't the reason for your leaving, but all the things started from this and i'm so sad, and sorry, for what is happened.

I hope you still think at me as a good guy nothing of personal was in my action, i played only argothoth as i would he was.

I hope that all the people in this forum do not think at me as someone that like to "waste" the game of the other people.

I hope you all understand my english and my reason

we understand you my friend, your english is good enough to make us understand that you are a good person and that you were playing Argothoth to the best of your ability and according to his character.
there is no blame in this situation for simply playing the game.

Did anyone recently send me a PM and then retrieve it? I've received multiple email notifications of new messages, and when I check nothing new is there. If not, I'll inform Vain of the situation.