Pantheon 2.0 - Rules and Comments Thread

[Mistress Cathy]

We all want P2 to continue.

[balon!]

I dunno. I don't nessecarilly want P2 to end, but I AM tired of playing Adomorn. I could just start a new God, but then I have to contend with the fact that I'm surrounded by eight and nine DRP Gods.

And I'm ready for the story to come to a conclusion. I've been talking to some of the other players, and I think Lore and I were in a minority in the playing style (I think) we shared.

That is to say, playing for the story. And I like the stories best that have a good begining, middle and end. I'm looking forward to the kick ass end that this game will have, and then another kick ass begining to Pantheon 3.0

So anyway, yes I am in favor of starting registration for 3.0, which might also include some of the new rule system that Xar's made, and I am also for a good ending to 2.0

I agree with Norn, though, that I don't want a premature ending. If it take's a while more, I don't mind. But an ending is a must for me, I don't like games that go on indefinitely.

[Astavyastataa Kadna]

I can make an ending!! *MWWWAA HAA HAAA *

"and the Black Hole that is Astavyastataa Kadna DEVOURS the world ... and then the Universe!!






..... the end!

[balon!]

I can make an ending!! *MWWWAA HAA HAAA *

"and the Black Hole that is Astavyastataa Kadna DEVOURS the world ... and then the Universe!!






..... the end!

I meant an EPIC ending, not anoying.

[Norn]

I have always played with a definite ending in mind for the character of Norn. Once that ending was achieved, it was my plan to create a new character for Pantheon 2. Yes, I'd be starting off much weaker than others, but late starters like Argothoth, Astavyastataa Kadna, Mithyaat Vam and O-gon-cho haven't had too many problems catching up.

Also, I find a lot of the political intrigue just as enjoyable as the story, which is why Nephirthos' arrival saddens me a little. With Nor Yekith gone I thought that we could start to blur the boundaries of good and evil a little, which would have made for some very interesting storylines. With a new "evil overlord" present however I can't see that happening.

[balon!]

With our without Nephirthos, I'm ready to end my role in this game. I'm just ready to start a new guy, with a new outlook.

It would be nice to have a whole new world to play in, though I'm MORE than willing to just make a new guy for this game. I'll see how it plays out in the next few turns.

[O-gon-cho]

Hey, as new deities join, I have someone to be a little more powerful than...

I'll get the hang of this DRP thing yet, although it truly isn't my focus in the Game at all...

[Fist and Faith]

I don't play for the story. I play to make my followers safe and happy. That's impossible on Eiran, so the striving won't ever stop. I could do this forever.

[Mistress Cathy]

I agree with Balon that a new world/land would be fun.

[Vadhaka]

Well, if I recall correctly, Xar was in favour of having P3.0 in the same world. (Easier for background/framework/whatever.)

I'm in two minds. On the one hand, as Norn says, with a new global threat, the politics are on the decline...especially since its an NPC. And I like the politics. I was hoping for that blurring as well.

On the other, I've worked hard and I like my domains. Now we're just gonna can it? (Not that we are...Xar specifically said P2.0 could continue for a while.)

So on that note, Yes, start the registration thread...I'm especially interested in the new rules. But I'm prepared to carry on playing P2.0 as long as it goes.

[Norn]

I reluctantly find myself agreeing with everything you said Vadhaka.

PS - Tawhiri-matea, are you from NZ or do you just know a bit about it?

[Xar]

Let's clarify things, shall we? I do not intend to end Pantheon 2.0 prematurely, but it is very likely that it will end - the more power each deity gains, the more any accidents it creates have the potential of disrupting the whole world (cryptic hint #1: it just happened in the incoming turn), for example. Additionally, Nor Yekith's defection left a void in the game - that is, while there was some intrigue afterwards, there really was little or no sense of antagonism between some players, and obviously antagonism should be a big part of the game (otherwise it just turns into a big happy family besieged by disasters). Incidentally, despite common sense, it looks like intrigue has INCREASED as a result of the recent events, rather than disappearing. It's just subtler Additionally, like Balon and a few others, I too would like to have an ending - it doesn't have to be now, but I think each story, including Pantheon 2.0, should have an end. Finally, right now new players have a harder time integrating with the game, because their power is very low when compared to most deities. Many now are DR 7, 8 or (in one case) even 11; a DR-1 deity is considered a nuisance at most, and it may take a long while before he or she can compare to the others. If said player also wants to play a character whose viewpoint is different than other deities - say, an overtly evil deity - he or she simply risks being crushed as soon as the protection expires. Not to mention, of course, that most of those who already "introduced" their new deities aren't new players, but players who already have an existing deity (and therefore couldn't be introduced in Pantheon 2.0 yet, anyway).

With this in mind, I think it's good to think about what comes next. Depending on the actions of the various gods, Pantheon 2.0 could end in a handful of turns or it could continue for ten more, but eventually it is very likely, if not certain, that it will come to an end. Therefore, it doesn't hurt to be prepared, does it?

[Norn]

Additionally, Nor Yekith's defection left a void in the game - that is, while there was some intrigue afterwards, there really was little or no sense of antagonism between some players, and obviously antagonism should be a big part of the game.

I completely disagree with this statement. The problem is that whatever burgeoning conflict there was was made insignificant by Nephirthos - such a global threat dictated that such fledgling antagonism be put aside. Had the paranoiac not returned then I suspect some small disagreements would have grown quite quickly, and I think they would have been far more interesting in that it is unlikely that there would be a good versus evil split as was the case with Nor Yekith.

Incidentally, despite common sense, it looks like intrigue has INCREASED as a result of the recent events, rather than disappearing. It's just subtler.

I don't know about anyone else, but I think that this is a good thing. I love the story of Pantheon 2, but it is a game, and without a feeling of actually participating (which I find that the intrigue provides) then it all gets a little pointless.

I'm not opposed to setting up a registration and/or rules thread for Pantheon 3. I just feel ending Pantheon 2 anytime soon would be more of a reaction to Nor Yekith's departure and the rise of Nephirthos than a legitimate ending.

[Xar]

Additionally, Nor Yekith's defection left a void in the game - that is, while there was some intrigue afterwards, there really was little or no sense of antagonism between some players, and obviously antagonism should be a big part of the game.

I completely disagree with this statement. The problem is that whatever burgeoning conflict there was was made insignificant by Nephirthos - such a global threat dictated that such fledgling antagonism be put aside. Had the paranoiac not returned then I suspect some small disagreements would have grown quite quickly, and I think they would have been far more interesting in that it is unlikely that there would be a good versus evil split as was the case with Nor Yekith.

There is conflict even though you do not see it - in fact, several gods are actually exploiting the situation to advance their own agendas. If the conflict with Nephirthos prevents anyone else from noticing the hidden currents, I guess all you can say is kudos to those who have hidden their moves so well

Incidentally, despite common sense, it looks like intrigue has INCREASED as a result of the recent events, rather than disappearing. It's just subtler.

I don't know about anyone else, but I think that this is a good thing. I love the story of Pantheon 2, but it is a game, and without a feeling of actually participating (which I find that the intrigue provides) then it all gets a little pointless.

I'm not opposed to setting up a registration and/or rules thread for Pantheon 3. I just feel ending Pantheon 2 anytime soon would be more of a reaction to Nor Yekith's departure and the rise of Nephirthos than a legitimate ending.

The end of Pantheon 2.0 depends on the actions of the players, with or without Nephirthos's presence. As I told another god, the World Breaker is not synonymous with end of the world: however, he IS a catalyst which could lead to disastrous choices on the part of various gods, and that in turn could well lead to the end of the world. Right now, the current turn displays 3 worldwide threats, and Nephirthos is only one of them; a second one is another threat a long time in the coming, and the third one is born solely of the ill-fated actions of another god. So, playing your cards well could very well extend the lifespan of Pantheon 2.0, but as the gods become more and more powerful, the chance of screwing up in a major way becomes more and more realistic, as the turn will show.
In short, despite Nephirthos, the doom of the world is entirely up to you; do not be fooled into thinking, however, that the game can only end if I introduce external elements, because the more you people grow in power, the more likely it is a mistake in your part will be the cause of the end of the game.
Enjoy the thought!

[Bhakti]

That's enough out of you, Xar. Get back to Turn 23!!!

[O-gon-cho]

Let's clarify things, shall we? I do not intend to end Pantheon 2.0 prematurely, but it is very likely that it will end - the more power each deity gains, the more any accidents it creates have the potential of disrupting the whole world (cryptic hint #1: it just happened in the incoming turn), for example.

...clapping with glee...

Oh boy! More cryptic hints!

Right now, the current turn displays 3 worldwide threats, and Nephirthos is only one of them; a second one is another threat a long time in the coming, and the third one is born solely of the ill-fated actions of another god.

Uh...on second thought...

[I'm Murrin]

For the record (in response to Norn's comments) I, at least, have tried to keep up intrigue and conflict with other players despite Nephirthos' arrival. (Hey, Asta!)
I have registered an account for a new god: that's because I had an idea for one several months ago, and other people had started doing it, and I wanted a little extra chance of getting the place I wanted. The god I'm planning would require a new Pantheon game to be of any use, but I'm not expecting the end of Pantheon 2 any time soon.

[Creator]

For the record (in response to Norn's comments) I, at least, have tried to keep up intrigue and conflict with other players despite Nephirthos' arrival. (Hey, Asta!)...

Who? ME!!

[Sorry, out of Asta 'clothing' - needed to change email ID and now an ADMIN must reactivate me! ]

[O-gon-cho]

[Sorry, out of Asta 'clothing' - needed to change email ID and now an ADMIN must reactivate me! ]

*tee-hee-hee*

The Prime deactivated himself...

...sorry AK...really...

[I'm Murrin]

I finally got off my arse and started writing something for the contest. It's more of a children's fable than a myth, but it'll do for a last minute attempt.