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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:06 pm
by kevinswatch
^Heh, I think we all agree with that. That's the point. Hehe.-jay

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:42 am
by Vain
She sells sea shoulds on the sea-shore

Personally, neither title does it for me. I still think that: "This Day All Gods Die" is one of the coolest book titles ever

The title is from the legend of berek- half-hand:

"Thus he ran, hunted by death, and the memory of the shadow was upon him. For three days he ran, never stopping, never resting -and for three days the King's host came behind him like a murderous beast, panting for blood. At the last of his strength and the extremity of his despair, he came to Mount Thunder. Climbing the rock-strewn slope, he threw himself down atop a great boulder and wept, saying, `Alas for the Earth. We are overthrown, and have no friend to redeem us. Beauty shall pass utterly from the Land.'
"But the rock on which he lay replied, `There is a Friend for a heart with the wisdom to see it.'
" `The stones are not my friends,' cried Berek. `See, my enemies ride the Land, and no convulsion tears the earth from under their befouling feet.'
" `That may be,' said the rock. `They are alive as much as you, and need the ground to stand upon. Yet there is a Friend for you in the Earth, if you will pledge your soul to its healing.'"

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:47 am
by kevinswatch
I still think that: "This Day All Gods Die" is one of the coolest book titles ever.
No.........."This Day All Gods Die" is THE coolest book title ever.-jay

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:47 am
by Vain
Ah yes- I stand corrected

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:49 am
by Loredoctor
kevinswatch wrote:
I still think that: "This Day All Gods Die" is one of the coolest book titles ever.
No.........."This Day All Gods Die" is THE coolest book title ever.-jay
Agreed.

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:06 am
by Fist and Faith
Vain wrote:The title is from the legend of berek- half-hand:
True enough. But, to my embarassment, I was reminded of Lord Kevin's Lament:
Ah, Creator!
Timelord and Landsire!
Did You intend
that beauty and truth should pass utterly
from the Earth?

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:09 am
by Furls Fire
I like "shall" better. Sounds more...ummm...poetic. :)

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:40 pm
by aliantha
Maybe this isn't so dire. It's possible that SRD's Esteemed Webmaster simply made a mistake and put "should" on that page instead of "shall".

If it's *not* just a typo...then I agree that "shall" is better than "should". But I also agree with whoever said that if we kick up a fuss with SRD, he's liable to go with "should" just to be contrary.

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:28 pm
by Relayer
It could be worse than that. He might re-release some of his other books:

Power Should Preserve

Should Wield White Gold

A Man Should Ride Through

A Dark and Hungry God Might Arise

This Day All Gods Should Die

The Man Who Should Have Killed His Brother

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:07 pm
by CovenantJr
:LOLS: Particularly:
Relayer wrote:A Man Should Ride Through

A Dark and Hungry God Might Arise

The Man Who Should Have Killed His Brother

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:04 pm
by kevinswatch
aliantha wrote:Maybe this isn't so dire. It's possible that SRD's Esteemed Webmaster simply made a mistake and put "should" on that page instead of "shall".
No, SRD confirmed that it's "should" in the GI. Plus, it used to say "shall" on the website, but it was changed recently.-jay

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:28 pm
by hierachy
Loremaster wrote:
kevinswatch wrote:
I still think that: "This Day All Gods Die" is one of the coolest book titles ever.
No.........."This Day All Gods Die" is THE coolest book title ever.-jay
Agreed.
Absolutely.

...And the rest of it isn't bad either. ;)

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:26 am
by Vain
I should still actually read the book seeing that I've had it for quite a while now.

I think I should
Therefore I shall
I think

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:43 pm
by aliantha
kevinswatch wrote:
aliantha wrote:Maybe this isn't so dire. It's possible that SRD's Esteemed Webmaster simply made a mistake and put "should" on that page instead of "shall".
No, SRD confirmed that it's "should" in the GI. Plus, it used to say "shall" on the website, but it was changed recently.-jay
Bummer. Ah, well. I suppose I shall read it, regardless. ;)

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:02 pm
by wayfriend
We still have a chance to turn the tide! We need to raise our voices!

( Remember when Donaldson was calling Linden's son Zebediah?!?! We all spoke up, and got the name changed to Jeremiah. And it was much better. )

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:34 pm
by Fist and Faith
"Should" is not a done deal, and I'm sure all parties that have a say in the title will see the superiority of "Shall" before it comes out.

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:00 am
by Avatar
I'm with you WayFriend. ;)

--A

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:47 am
by Seareach
Fist and Faith wrote:"Should" is not a done deal, and I'm sure all parties that have a say in the title will see the superiority of "Shall" before it comes out.
That being SRD...and...um...SRD...and then there's...oh yeah!...SRD! ;)

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:22 am
by Fist and Faith
:D SRD is certainly one of the biggies. But let us not forget his answer when he was asked exactly what Lord Foul's bane is: "I called that book Lord Foul's Ritual. My publisher changed the title." (From memory, so not an exact quote.)

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:25 am
by Tulizar
Fist and Faith wrote::D SRD is certainly one of the biggies. But let us not forget his answer when he was asked exactly what Lord Foul's bane is: "I called that book Lord Foul's Ritual. My publisher changed the title." (From memory, so not an exact quote.)
That's right. Didn't SRD state that he wasn't even sure what Lord Foul's Bane meant---didn't know what "Bane" referred to?? Crazy publishers.

Shall does have a poetic ring to it and although it does add a sense of importance to the title, I personally don't have a problem with the more pedestrian Should.

I don't know about the rest of the world, but shall is not a commonly used word in the States anymore. I pretty much understand the rules for shall's usage, it just sounds out of place in everyday usage, possibly even comes across as a bit stuffy or haugty. I know the title of a great book isn't everyday usage, but I still won't be disappointed if Should makes the final cut!