Kevin's Watch

Variol Farseer wrote:

Wayfriend wrote:

Seppi2112 wrote:SRD states the father similarities so many times in TWL and TOT its ridiculous. No preconceptions here, just a careful reading

... followed by a logical leap of metaphoric proportions to conclude that she was incapable of loving a man except as a father replacement.

Sorry, that's you making the leap. Linden happened to fall for TC because he struck her as a man who found a way to live where her father failed and died. SRD is quite explicit about that. That doesn't in any way mean that she could not love a man who did not possess that particular quality; it just means that this dynamic was driving this particular relationship. Don't assume too much.

I would not even go so far as to say as it is the only reason she fell for TC, either. Maybe your right, though ... too many people hereabouts saying things like "Linden can only love a man whose inaccessible/dead/etc." Maybe I assumed Seppi was saying "Linden can only love a man who etc." too.

Yeah WF, it drives this dynamic... I'd go further to argue that she was messed up enough that she probably wouldn't have let her guard down for anyone else tho. SRD says TC was the first man she ever loved.

variol son wrote:

kevinswatch wrote:

Malik wrote:With Liand, it's just the opposite: Linden is leading him through a Land he never knew. So he has no role whatsoever--except to tag along and ogle Pahni.

Heh, yeah, I agree. From what I've seen so far, Sunder and Hollian had far more depth to their characters than Liand and Pahni. There's not much of a comparison.

I mean, that scene with Sunder and Hollian in Andelain in WGW? Powerful stuff. I don't think I'd care a whiff if Liand or Pahni kicked the bucket.

You mean the scene that happened halfway through the last book of the previous series?

I understand why we all do it, but comparing the unfinished Last Chronicles to the finished (and well dissected) First and Second Chronicles strikes me as being a little unfair in some cases. How can Liand be as awesome at the end of Fatal Revenant as Sunder and Hollian were mid way through White Gold Weilder? I think it would be more accurate to compare him to Sunder and Hollian at the end of The Wounded Land.

Well, I think Sunder is a lot more accomplished at the end of Wounded Land than Liand is at the end of Runes.

"After all, it is no great thing to be a Rider." Remember that line? He absolutely rocks.

Liand is a cypher to me. I can't figure him out. I just keep thinking, he is WAY too innocent. It is TOO much of a pattern for the outlander arriving in Mithil Stonedown to find the absolutely perfect person to help him/her.

Wouldn't it be awesome if Liand is Foul?

SGuilfoyle1966 wrote:Wouldn't it be awesome if Liand is Foul?

Gosh! I hope not!

Or either an Elohim or Insequent.

But probably not, he's just the "token innocent person from Mithil Stonedown"

Sea, what happened to your av?

Relayer wrote:But probably not, he's just the "token innocent person from Mithil Stonedown"

Wait... Linden's gonna do what to WHO?!

I mourn for Liand's Anal Orifice.

Relayer wrote:Sea, what happened to your av?

Ah, it's just reflecting my mood at the moment. The butt is sure to return eventually.

Sea, that's good to hear

As for EL, <shakes head in mock disgust>
Love your av though!

Working on the sword.

Just gotta find something like than wood.