Perhaps Covenant wasn't the First White Gold Weilder?
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Remember Mhoram's and Trell's discovery of power? They did not have white gold either, but the power they learned was enough to break the arch of time and cause another ROD, if they had gone further with it. Maybe that is how Berek called up the Fire Lions. Perhaps he learned the secret of that power and it is wild magic, too, but without an external item like a ring to weild it. But I still believe somewhere there had to exist white gold before TC. If I saw a Martian, I'd know it was something different but I would not know it was a Martian because no one had ever seen one before, so there were no pictures or descriptions of it. You can't have either of those things if the item never existed. So they had to know what it looked like in order to know what it was. AM I making sense or just rambling again? I'm out of diamondraught.......
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One must have strength to judge the weakness of others. I am not so mighty. Lord Mhoram in TIW
One must have strength to judge the weakness of others. I am not so mighty. Lord Mhoram in TIW
Was Trell in danger of breaking the Arch? I know he was risking another RoD and the destruction of Revelstone. I'm away from my books, should've brought them to college with me...
Anyway, it seems like if someone prophesied/foresaw the arrival of a Martian as a harbinger of a great struggle for the Earth, and you met a short green man who claimed to be a Martian when asked who he was, I would take him at his word. Especially if he showed no prior knowledge of the prophesy/foreseeing.
And I'm not sure that Berek 'summoned' the Fire Lions like Prothall did at the end of LFB. For one thing, he didn't even have a SoL at that point...
I could say more, but it would belong on another board...
Anyway, it seems like if someone prophesied/foresaw the arrival of a Martian as a harbinger of a great struggle for the Earth, and you met a short green man who claimed to be a Martian when asked who he was, I would take him at his word. Especially if he showed no prior knowledge of the prophesy/foreseeing.
And I'm not sure that Berek 'summoned' the Fire Lions like Prothall did at the end of LFB. For one thing, he didn't even have a SoL at that point...
I could say more, but it would belong on another board...
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Berek, Mhoram and Trell all wielded Earthpower, not Wild Magic.
Trell by his very nature was incapable of destroying the Arch, as he was incapable of wielding enough power. The RoD that he was initiating was nowhere near the scale of Kevin's, after all.
In fact, although there is "wild magic graven in every rock", so you could argue that Earthpower is just an expression of Wild Magic, yet I still believe that no expression of Earthpower would suffice to threaten the Arch of Time. In fact, nothing contained within the Arch itself is powerful enough to break it. This is Lord Foul's great dilemna: he's contained by the Arch, therefore he is unable to break free of it.
Something external is needed. The Creator intervening would do so, but he won't go that far. Someone else, then, and TC is a volatile enough personality that he almost did destroy everything.
Trell by his very nature was incapable of destroying the Arch, as he was incapable of wielding enough power. The RoD that he was initiating was nowhere near the scale of Kevin's, after all.
In fact, although there is "wild magic graven in every rock", so you could argue that Earthpower is just an expression of Wild Magic, yet I still believe that no expression of Earthpower would suffice to threaten the Arch of Time. In fact, nothing contained within the Arch itself is powerful enough to break it. This is Lord Foul's great dilemna: he's contained by the Arch, therefore he is unable to break free of it.
Something external is needed. The Creator intervening would do so, but he won't go that far. Someone else, then, and TC is a volatile enough personality that he almost did destroy everything.
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Ok good. Since I got it in my head that Berek had a white gold ring I always wondered where it went. That makes it pretty obvious that there hasn't been a white gold ring before TC since Lord Foul would have got to it a long time ago and broken the arch.
(oh, there are things in the world that can break the arch...well, let me think about it. The worm of the world's end, if it is awoken it can destroy the world and I assumed that would set Lord Foul free but would it? The same would go for anything with that kind of power; the elohim seem to imply they have that kind of power over the world. Hmm.)
(oh, there are things in the world that can break the arch...well, let me think about it. The worm of the world's end, if it is awoken it can destroy the world and I assumed that would set Lord Foul free but would it? The same would go for anything with that kind of power; the elohim seem to imply they have that kind of power over the world. Hmm.)