Kevin's Watch

OH, I've read the Forever War I think...sorta novella length? Think it was in an anthology of sci-fi, and I struggled with it.

This is one of the only books I haven't finished in the past few years. Too many bad jokes in the early parts about old people having trouble going to the bathroom and having trouble getting it up. And, when they de-aged and enhanced them, there wasn't much/enough conveyance of how their age and experience (in the part I read) really contributed to their competence as newly recruited soldiers. I actually kinda felt like the POV character started acting/thinking younger in just about every way - not just "have sex again and pee normally and run around some." Maybe that was the point (that they were ready to discard their lonely lives and begin again fresh or something), but it was kind of a boring point.

It probably is better than the Eragon books I have read (btw, does anyone know if eragons can breathe fire?).

SOrry if I misrepresented it, it HAS been a long time since I read part of it.

Yeah, not one of my favourites.

--A

Wake by Robert J Sawyer

Reading this book was like a cyber hand reaching out from within the pages to handshake.

Its the first book in the www trilogy.

Wow.

Since I don't go into the 'tank or Mallory's, I'm wondering if that is the longest post Vraith has ever put up?

Anyway, you do make
In the Land of Invented Languages:
Adventures in Linquistic Creativity, Madness, and Genius
sound like a fascinating read with just the teasers you shared.

Long post yes, but I think all the extra line breaks are cheating.

I'm Murrin wrote:Long post yes, but I think all the extra line breaks are cheating.

Heh...the formatting got partly messed [in the margins] for whatever reason...but the spacing is because more than one person has harassed me for wall of text. Sometimes amusingly...I think it was Orlion, but might have been someone else said, paraphrasing "Line breaks, Vraith. Fucking use them."
Well, I took it as teasing anyway...he might have been really annoyed.

Others were much less polite.

You should check out The Language Instinct, which addresses some of the claims and peculiarities of the Hopi language in one of its chapters.

(And yes, I knew that about Tolkein. Middle Earth was born to support his invented language, rather than the other way around.)

And paragraphs are good. Nice, digestible sections.

--A

I'd like to recommend a book ... Vraith's Post.

wayfriend wrote:I'd like to recommend a book ... Vraith's Post.

Says the author of This .
The Watch version of the Ring Cycle.
/wink

wayfriend wrote:I'd like to recommend a book ... Vraith's Post.

Just finished reading Kay's "River of Stars". A great semi-sequel to the amazing "Under Heaven".

"River of Stars" had a bit of a letdown near the end, however, but to explain further gets into spoilerish territory.

"Under Heaven" - 9.1/10 "River of Stars" - 8.4/10

Great to read a new book by my second-favorite writer in a summer that is leading up to The Last Dark, by my (of course) favorite writer.

TALES OF THE DYING EARTH, By Jack Vance

“Once it was a tall world of cloudy mountains and bright rivers, and the sun was a white blazing ball. Ages of rain and wind have beaten and rounded the granite, and the sun is feeble and red. The continents have sunk and risen. A million cities have lifted towers, have fallen to dust. In place of the old peoples a few thousand souls live. There is evil on Earth, evil distilled by time…Earth is dying and in its twilight…”
—Pandelume of Embelyon



"[Vance] had a huge influence on me and my work, and for the past fifty-some years has ranked among my very favorite writers. Every time a new Jack Vance book came out, I would drop whatever else I was doing and read it. Sometimes I did not mean to, but once you cracked the covers of a Vance book, you were lost."

~GRRMartin

'Dan Simmons, the best-selling writer of horror and fantasy, described discovering Vance as “a revelation for me, like coming to Proust or Henry James. Suddenly you’re in the deep end of the pool. He gives you glimpses of entire worlds with just perfectly turned language. If he’d been born south of the border, he’d be up for a Nobel Prize.”'

THE BOOK OF THE NEW SUN, by Gene Wolfe



(Excerpt) Severian the Torturer:

"We are despised by everyone," I said. "And so there is no reason why I should not be despised by you. The surprising thing is not that you should have come to hate me now, but that you could go this long before coming to feel as the rest do. But because I love you, I am going to try to state the case for our guild, and thus for myself, hoping that perhaps afterward you won't feel so badly about having loved a torturer, even though you don't love me any longer.

"We are not cruel. We take no delight in what we do, except in doing it well, which means doing it quickly and doing neither more nor less than the law instructs us. We obey the judges, who hold their offices because the people consent to it. Some individuals tell us we should do nothing of what we do, and that no one should do it. They say that punishment inflicted with cold blood is a greater crime than any crime our clients could have committed.

"There may be justice in that, but it is a justice that would destroy the whole Commonwealth. No one could feel safe and no one could be safe, and in the end the people would rise up—at first against the thieves and the murderers, and then against anyone who offended the popular ideas of propriety, and at last against mere strangers and outcasts. Then they would be back to the old horrors of stoning and burning, in which every man seeks to outdo his neighbor for fear he will be thought tomorrow to hold some sympathy for the wretch dying today.

"Others yet hold that our clients should not be tortured or executed, but should be made to labor for the Commonwealth, digging canals, building watchtowers, and the like. But with the cost of their guards and chains, honest workers might be hired, who otherwise would want for bread. Why should these loyal workers starve so that murderers shall not die, nor thieves feel any pain? Furthermore, these murderers and thieves, being without loyalty to the law and without hope of reward, would not work save under the lash. What is that lash but torture again, going under a new name?

"Still others say that all those judged guilty should be confined, in comfort and without pain, for many years—and often for as long as they will live. But those who have comfort and no pain live long, and every orichalk spent to maintain them so would have to be taken from better purposes. I know little of the war, but I know enough to understand how much money is needed to buy weapons and pay soldiers. The fighting is in the mountains to the north now, so that we fight as if behind a hundred walls. But what if it should reach the pampas? Would it be possible to hold back the Ascians when there was so much room to maneuver? And how would Nessus be fed if the herds there were to fall into their hands?

"If the guilty are not to be locked away in comfort, and are not to be tortured, what remains? If they are all killed, and all killed alike, then a poor woman who steals will be thought as bad as a mother who poisons her own child, as Morwenna of Saltus did. Would you wish that? In time of peace, many might be banished. But to banish them now would only be to deliver a corps of spies to the Ascians, to be trained and supplied with funds and sent back among us. Soon no one could be trusted, though he spoke our own tongue. Would you wish that?"

Dorcas lay so silent upon the bed that I thought for a moment she had fallen asleep. But her eyes, those enormous eyes of perfect blue, were open; and when I leaned over to look at her, they moved, and seemed for a time to watch me as they might have watched the spreading ripples in a pond.

"All right, we are devils," I said. "If you would have it so. But we are necessary. Even the powers of Heaven find it necessary to employ devils."