Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:35 am
I have a gut feeling you will fall in love with Michael, from Stranger in a Strange Land, Cambo. I know I did.
Never read Stranger? Damn, do yourself a favour man.
--A
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:24 am
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:20 pm
Yes read Stranger, and while you're at it read The Stranger by Camus (but you, probably, already have) whatever you do DON'T stop at Neverness-you must read The Broken God as well.
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:57 am
Yeah, I second that. Neverness is more like a prologue...
--A
--A
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:34 pm
Absolutely. All of the Neverness books are fantastic.
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:10 pm
(OK, now I'll proselytize, and while you're at it join my Zindell based board and the Watch's sister board by clicking my www below [you might even find some familiar faces 
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])Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:40 pm
Heh Danlo, you wouldn't make a very good missionary. Too softly spoken. I've been lurking round Ahira's Hangar a couple of times. Thought I'd read the book before I joined. 
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:44 pm
I'm a member of Ahira's Hangar, Cambo. Have been for awhile. I have yet to read any Zindell...
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:58 pm
Dam, now he'll never join! 
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:27 am
I already did, danlo. At least I registered, probably about a year ago. Had to in order to get at some recipes that came highly recommended. Don't think I've ever posted there though...
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:57 am
Huh, maybe we should ban her...Menolly wrote:I'm a member of Ahira's Hangar, Cambo. Have been for awhile. I have yet to read any Zindell...
Nah, just kidding. It's not a requirement. We're (slowly) doing a Dune group read too...you like Dune don't you?
--A
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:10 pm
Have we mentioned the Earthsea group read as well?Avatar wrote:We're (slowly) doing a Dune group read too...you like Dune don't you?
I'm still hoping for a little more response to chapter 2 of The Farthest Shore, before chapter 3 goes up...
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:40 am
I have The Earthsea Quartet and Dune (yes, Av, I love that series). Maybe you'll see me there soon. Although it's been a long time since I've read Earthsea, so perhaps a re-read of the first two is in order.
Although it's been a long time since I've read Earthsea, so perhaps a re-read of the first two is in order.Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:26 am
We've already done AWoE and ToA in the group read, but new comments are always welcome! Feel free to read the dissections for each chapter as you reread the first two books.
I, for one, will look forward to seeing you there and reading what you have to say.
I, for one, will look forward to seeing you there and reading what you have to say.
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:05 am
Kind of hard to respond-you wrote a fricking thesis on it!Menolly wrote: I'm still hoping for a little more response to chapter 2 of The Farthest Shore, before chapter 3 goes up...
(not to mention duchys 8 page historical essay 
)Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:59 am
danlo wrote:Kind of hard to respond-you wrote a fricking thesis on it!Menolly wrote: I'm still hoping for a little more response to chapter 2 of The Farthest Shore, before chapter 3 goes up...
danlo wrote:(not to mention duchys 8 page historical essay
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:53 am
I somehow suspected you would.Cambo wrote:(yes, Av, I love that series).
--A
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:02 am
Bump!
Transpersonal Psychology and Integral Spirituality
Studied these in my Mysticism class last year. I see them as more an intellectual influence than a purely spiritual one, but they provide some interesting frameworks to view spirituality from, so we might as well take a look.
Transpersonal Psychology first sprung up in the sixties as a section of the psychological community, involved or interested in the counter-culture, became convinced there was something lacking in the field. Basically they felt that psychology made a mistake in ignoring spiritual aspects of a person, and the very real influence they have on a person's mind. Transpersonal psychology posits that not only should spiritual matters be acknowledged, if a person shows a tendency toward spirituality, it should be actively encouraged as an important part of their psyche. They don't blindly sing spirituality's praises, though; a huge part of the field is exploring dangers and pathologies inherent in spiritual matters.
Integral Spirituality is the brainchild of Ken Wilber, who was involved in Transpersonal Psychology early in his career, but split away to do his own thing. One suspects there may be bad blood there, but both sides are pretty closed mouthed about it. Several scholars have predicted that the next major revolution in thought, following postmodernism, will involve a shift to Integral thinking, a recognition of the merits and deficiencies of the schools of thought that came before, and the incorporation of the merits into a new paradigm. Wilber believes that this paradigm will be one of greater spirituality, Integral thought in his mind having the logical conclusion that all things are Integrated, that the Kosmos is all One. I'm not exactly sold on this theory. I think some form of consciousness revolution is inevitable; it's been happening at an accelerating rate throughout human history; but I doubt that it will lead to a general increase in spirituality. I think, as always, there will be people who choose to interpret it in a spiritual matter, and those who don't. Wilber's conception of the divine is almost identical to mine, however, so I find some of his interpretative frameworks very interesting. [/i]
Transpersonal Psychology and Integral Spirituality
Studied these in my Mysticism class last year. I see them as more an intellectual influence than a purely spiritual one, but they provide some interesting frameworks to view spirituality from, so we might as well take a look.
Transpersonal Psychology first sprung up in the sixties as a section of the psychological community, involved or interested in the counter-culture, became convinced there was something lacking in the field. Basically they felt that psychology made a mistake in ignoring spiritual aspects of a person, and the very real influence they have on a person's mind. Transpersonal psychology posits that not only should spiritual matters be acknowledged, if a person shows a tendency toward spirituality, it should be actively encouraged as an important part of their psyche. They don't blindly sing spirituality's praises, though; a huge part of the field is exploring dangers and pathologies inherent in spiritual matters.
Integral Spirituality is the brainchild of Ken Wilber, who was involved in Transpersonal Psychology early in his career, but split away to do his own thing. One suspects there may be bad blood there, but both sides are pretty closed mouthed about it. Several scholars have predicted that the next major revolution in thought, following postmodernism, will involve a shift to Integral thinking, a recognition of the merits and deficiencies of the schools of thought that came before, and the incorporation of the merits into a new paradigm. Wilber believes that this paradigm will be one of greater spirituality, Integral thought in his mind having the logical conclusion that all things are Integrated, that the Kosmos is all One. I'm not exactly sold on this theory. I think some form of consciousness revolution is inevitable; it's been happening at an accelerating rate throughout human history; but I doubt that it will lead to a general increase in spirituality. I think, as always, there will be people who choose to interpret it in a spiritual matter, and those who don't. Wilber's conception of the divine is almost identical to mine, however, so I find some of his interpretative frameworks very interesting. [/i]
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:02 pm
Great thread. Cambo, time for updating.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:18 am
Whoo boy, lots to put down. Lots of change. I'll have a think and work on it.
One major change that stuck out for me is that I've kind of drifted away from intensely spiritual and esoteric matters, fringe schools like transpersonal psychology in particular. I still meditate, I still believe in an underlying conscious force animating the universe, but these concepts simply have less impact on my day-to-day life than they did back then. Interesting to see the contrast.
One major change that stuck out for me is that I've kind of drifted away from intensely spiritual and esoteric matters, fringe schools like transpersonal psychology in particular. I still meditate, I still believe in an underlying conscious force animating the universe, but these concepts simply have less impact on my day-to-day life than they did back then. Interesting to see the contrast.