Kevin's Watch

sgt.null wrote:goatkiller - is it ok that we discuss these things here? if not that is ok.

It's fine with me if we discuss it here. I suppose if we're going to get into a seriously deep conversation, we might want to spawn off another thread, just so the people wanting to track the game-related stuff don't have to wade through our philosophical mumbo-jumbo.

Menolly wrote:
Wow, someone (other than SD) has been reading my panentheism GwYtK posts on Facebook and understands what I am trying to say? Coolness!!

No, I got buried under all of the recipes, so I blocked you on FB. But in real-time conversation, you express it pretty will.

sgt.null wrote:if it is ok - the great thing about a morphine high is that compared to normal life it is better - if short.

but if you were high all the time what would be better than that? would you just want to maintain that?

It's never as good as the first time. Every other time, you're always wanting that perfect sense of wonder you had the first time. And it's just not the same. You build up tolerance, so you have to take more and more, the quality is iffy, so you may or may not be taking the right stuff.

But all of that is limitations of a physical reality... biology, etc. Transcend the mortal coil, all kinds of other things are possible.

i was on morphine in the hospital and understand the first time thing.

i am guessing that since i don't know what its like to lose this shell, i can never understand it.

so people in hell are like junkies looking for that perfect high?

and split if you like. you are in control of the horizontal and vertical.

Oh that's right. I actually do control the vertical and horizontal, don't I?

About the inmates of Hell, I'd say that they're not junkies, since they don't know what they're missing, and they don't want to chase that perfect high. But, in this metaphor, the junkies are right... there really is nothing better than the high, and those moderates in Hell are just missing out.

Menolly wrote:

Goatkiller666 wrote:And just to make her day, I'll point out that Menolly might have a better view on things than the rest of us. We look at Heaven as just our souls, and our personalities, going somewhere else. She, on the other hand, is thinking of transcendence... Joining with the creator (or perhaps returning to / rejoining), instead of "going to stand next to". I suspect that our merely four dimensional paradigm simply cannot properly deal with all of the ways that Heaven is different from here (or Hell). And those differences are probably the root of our general inability to be happy where / when we are...

Wow, someone (other than SD) has been reading my panentheism GwYtK posts on Facebook and understands what I am trying to say? Coolness!!

To add briefly to that, I wish to point out that in my personal belief, there is no heaven nor hell. We all return to the same source. One which we have never left, actually. One which we have merely forgotten and some seek throughout their various experiences when forgetfulness is upon them.

Menolly: Let's be fair. I do read your GwYtK posts, but I can't claim perfect understanding of what you are saying. Especially if Goat's assessment is accurate. My impression has always been that you are far more about immanence than transcendence.

What am I doing posting in GT, anyway? Oh, right. Stalking you.

So then... where does this leave us?

Avatar suggests that I'll get an actual forum sometime in early May. Once that's done, there can be some amount of consolidation of random ideas into an actual thread for actual rules. I expect to plagiarize the hell out of other games. Wait... it's not plagiarism if you give proper citations.

That still leaves me with the job of deciding on the specifics of the layers, maybe even a topology of some kind. Then I have to make (or have made) some maps. I refuse to believe that most of you couldn't do a better job than me at making maps.

And what's left for everybody else is to start pitching character ideas. I know this is somewhat challanging, given that the final rules aren't actually posted anywhere. But it also has the side-effect of letting me know that people are interested. 'Cause sometimes I feel like nobody but Savor Dam even posts stuff on GT anymore. I haven't even seen a DPJ rhyme in weeks.

To rhyme in haiku
Is awkward; something to rue
Better not to do...

Done in Japanese, haiku is all in one line; thus the lack of rhyme.

Add a second verse, and now you have something new. It's the perfect time.

You may have something. It's certainly a concept, one that's worth a look.
Though more Japanese, Montresor still won't like it -- still crass in his book.

I think I will pass. This new format's not for me; I like my old ways.
Expect plain haiku, as three line stanzas to form...my communiques.

Oh, god. Haiku-heroic couplets. *commits seppuku*

To fit the form, shouldn't that be:

Oh, my g-d above. Haiku-heroic couplets. *commits seppuku*

a strange turn taken
question hell's geography
one rhyme at a time

And...go!



--A

And...go!



--A

what is this then? a subsidary of the tank?

Not part of the Tank
It's a Dante-sque new game
Or it soon will be

Jenkies!

Ah, Hell no!

the hell you say!

What the #&$* are you talking about?

I'll tell you when you're older.