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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:02 pm
by wayfriend
"I like Joe Biden".
Anyone who likes Joe Biden is a complete moron who hates the US and wants the government to change their diapers.*
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"I like Joe Biden".
I don't know why you are saying torturing babies should be legal. Christ, democrats are taking their baby grooming stuff way to far. We need to get these people in jail!
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"I like Joe Biden".
People who like Joe Biden should shut the @^#% up.
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* An actual Tank comment, starting at "a complete".
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:09 pm
by Fist and Faith
I cannot imagine it would be possible to start a new tank without having to work through some glitches. I also cannot imagine glitches cannot be worked through.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:36 pm
by SerScot
Given that this is the “general discussion� subthread and it says any topics are able to be posted. Can I start a political discussion here?
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:38 pm
by Zarathustra
wayfriend wrote:"I like Joe Biden".
Anyone who likes Joe Biden is a complete moron who hates the US and wants the government to change their diapers.*
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Just because the sentence talks about a larger group than the poster doesn’t mean it’s not also talking about the poster who likes Joe Biden. Delete.
wayfriend wrote:
"I like Joe Biden".
I don't know why you are saying torturing babies should be legal. Christ, democrats are taking their baby grooming stuff way to far. We need to get these people in jail!
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The first sentence includes ‘you.’ Delete.
wayfriend wrote:
"I like Joe Biden".
People who like Joe Biden should shut the @^#% up.
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That’s obviously about the poster. Delete.
Honestly, Wayfriend, you are the only one I’d expect to try to bend the rules to phrase things in a passive aggressive way to refer to someone without explicitly stating it. You demonstrate your skill at doing so in this very post. So we’d definitely have a rule just for you that prevents oblique references to others without explicitly naming them. That should put your mind at ease, right?
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:55 pm
by Fist and Faith
I agree with Z's interpretation of wf's post. Correct me if I'm wrong, wf, but I assume that's your interpretation, as well. So that's three of us who see it that way, and think all three examples should be deleted. So here's an offer for everyone.
None of the Gen Dis mods are around to run this test. So let's do it in the Close. One thread for politics. Just one. Because it's a test, and I couldn't keep up on it in multiple threads as we work out kinks, and see who will actually try to follow the (evolving, if necessary) rules.
Just a thought... I might lock the thread now and then, with a post saying what the issue is, then unlock it so we can address that issue. Then it can go back to the discussion. I don't know if this will ever be necessary, but may as well have a plan just in case.
I'll start a thread, so the rules (evolving, if necessary) can be in the first post. The question is, what should the specific topic be? SerScot, I'd rather it not be the one you did the other day that I deleted.

[Edit:. Hang on. I'm not sure I remember what that was. I might be confusing it with a post of yours here.]
Ideas?
And if Jay comes around and sees what's going on, everybody keep your mouth shut.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:13 pm
by Zarathustra
Fist, it could be a current events thread. All purpose. I’d like to hear Ser Scott’s thoughts on Ukraine. Sounded like he was ready to go.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:42 pm
by Fist and Faith
That's true. The topics would get all over the place. But that wouldn't make it harder for me to do this. Cool. Done.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 11:47 pm
by SerScot
Fist and Faith wrote:I agree with Z's interpretation of wf's post. Correct me if I'm wrong, wf, but I assume that's your interpretation, as well. So that's three of us who see it that way, and think all three examples should be deleted. So here's an offer for everyone.
None of the Gen Dis mods are around to run this test. So let's do it in the Close. One thread for politics. Just one. Because it's a test, and I couldn't keep up on it in multiple threads as we work out kinks, and see who will actually try to follow the (evolving, if necessary) rules.
Just a thought... I might lock the thread now and then, with a post saying what the issue is, then unlock it so we can address that issue. Then it can go back to the discussion. I don't know if this will ever be necessary, but may as well have a plan just in case.
Understood.
I'll start a thread, so the rules (evolving, if necessary) can be in the first post. The question is, what should the specific topic be? SerScot, I'd rather it not be the one you did the other day that I deleted.

[Edit:. Hang on. I'm not sure I remember what that was. I might be confusing it with a post of yours here.]
Ideas?
And if Jay comes around and sees what's going on, everybody keep your mouth shut.
Understood. The Russian invasion of Ukraine perhaps?
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:28 am
by SoulBiter
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:51 am
by Savor Dam
Good to see you back on the Watch, SB.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:46 pm
by SoulBiter
Savor Dam wrote:Good to see you back on the Watch, SB.
Thanks. I would love to see a place on the Watch to discuss current events around the world. I've taken a look about once a week just to see whats going on but nothing, until I saw this thread,, has really piqued my interest to post. I am hopeful that we can do that without it becoming something that Jay would axe.🪓
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:56 pm
by SerScot
Zarathustra wrote:Fist, it could be a current events thread. All purpose. I’d like to hear Ser Scott’s thoughts on Ukraine. Sounded like he was ready to go.
Since the CE thread was quickly locked. I’d like to ask a meta question. How can politics be discussed without discussing the various human groups that participate in politics? My comment there wasn’t directed at any particular individual and, of course, there will be people on the Watch that are part of the group discussed. But, again, how can politics be discussed without discussing what various political groups believe and adhere to?

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:59 pm
by Fist and Faith
I only locked it briefly, because I was asleep when a point of contention came up. It's open.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:08 pm
by SerScot
Fist and Faith wrote:I only locked it briefly, because I was asleep when a point of contention came up. It's open.
Muchos gracias.

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:20 pm
by Fist and Faith
I responded to your previous post there, also.
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:25 am
by kevinswatch
What is this “Hile Troy’s Think Tank� you all speak of?
Although I'm glad at least some of you have the sense to understand the fact that the decision was mine and mine alone and that there was no conspiracy.
I still like my best explanation as simply being "neener neener".
Anyway, the Watch is for the better for not having the filth that was the Tank anymore. Good riddance to bad rubbish as they say.
If you all want to attempt to bring it back as a single topic on current events in a civilized way, then sure, you have my blessing.
Would you rather me make someone a mod here (assuming I can) so you can have the topic in General Discussion?
-jay
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:56 am
by SoulBiter
kevinswatch wrote:
Anyway, the Watch is for the better for not having the filth that was the Tank anymore. Good riddance to bad rubbish as they say.
-jay
Not to put a damper on the kum-bah-yah but thats your opinion. Sure you have every right to do so but that doesn't make you right nor does it make your opinion more valid than anyone else. Many of us put years into the debates and discussions there. Along with that were hours of research to support our positions. The Watch is a lesser place without it.
Edit to add - thank you for allowing a current events thread to be created.
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:14 am
by kevinswatch
Don't worry, you're not dampering it.
Kum-bah-freaking-yah!
-jay
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:27 am
by StevieG
SoulBiter wrote:kevinswatch wrote:
Anyway, the Watch is for the better for not having the filth that was the Tank anymore. Good riddance to bad rubbish as they say.
-jay
Not to put a damper on the kum-bah-yah but thats your opinion. Sure you have every right to do so but that doesn't make you right nor does it make your opinion more valid than anyone else. Many of us put years into the debates and discussions there. Along with that were hours of research to support our positions. The Watch is a lesser place without it.
Edit to add - thank you for allowing a current events thread to be created.
Yeah.
“Fuck you Wosbald and the child predators you venerate.�
“Stay in your corner and whisper you religious ideologies to yourself. The adults are speaking.�
“Go fuck a sheep.�
Countless, yes countless other personal insults. I’m not surprised Jay nuked it, despite the years of effort some people put into it. It was in free fall, from a quality point of view, for the last several years.
Back when Serscot was posting, there was at least some level of civility.
Having said that, I’m optimistic about the current events thread, since the rules are quite specific and everyone has had a few months to cool off. I’ll be reading with interest.
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:15 pm
by SerScot
StevieG wrote:SoulBiter wrote:kevinswatch wrote:
Anyway, the Watch is for the better for not having the filth that was the Tank anymore. Good riddance to bad rubbish as they say.
-jay
Not to put a damper on the kum-bah-yah but thats your opinion. Sure you have every right to do so but that doesn't make you right nor does it make your opinion more valid than anyone else. Many of us put years into the debates and discussions there. Along with that were hours of research to support our positions. The Watch is a lesser place without it.
Edit to add - thank you for allowing a current events thread to be created.
Yeah.
“Fuck you Wosbald and the child predators you venerate.�
“Stay in your corner and whisper you religious ideologies to yourself. The adults are speaking.�
“Go fuck a sheep.�
Countless, yes countless other personal insults. I’m not surprised Jay nuked it, despite the years of effort some people put into it. It was in free fall, from a quality point of view, for the last several years.
Back when Serscot was posting, there was at least some level of civility.
Having said that, I’m optimistic about the current events thread, since the rules are quite specific and everyone has had a few months to cool off. I’ll be reading with interest.
Oh my. Yeah… if that was common parlence recently… wow.