Kevin's Watch

Posted: **Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:50 pm**

Crimson may be a lot of things, but metal definitely ain't one of them.

Posted: **Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:28 am**

Yep, Crimso's a lot of things. About six or seven different bands, I think.

There are a few common motifs: improvisation, complex polyrhythms, Fripp's "falling-down-the-stairs" guitar style. Crimson has aggressiveness, but they just as often pack melodic ballads. Belew kind of softens Fripp's cerebral journeys.

As far as being metal or prog: I don't think they're either, though they have strong elements of both. Not sure what they are, and I kinda like it that way.

Posted: **Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:23 pm**

funny... I was wondering when Mr. Mod would exersize his powers...

good one.

And I will concede to Lord Foul ... you view is apt.

Crimso is many things that are hard to pigeon hole ...
except they are not rap or country ...

Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:08 pm**

This current tangent on whether KC is metal or not completely misses the point of Lucimay's post (which inadvertantly started all this, it seems). Watch the Youtube footage! Sure, it doesn't do the original recording justice, but you can still tell that's some amazing music. My wife just got me that DVD for my birthday, and it instantly became one of my favorite concert DVDs. It has some of the most amazing sound I've ever heard. Great surround mix. Brilliant clarity. Very little compression--sounds good at all frequency levels. So much better than their 90s DVD from the Thrak tour.

The only problem is Belew's appearance. I know he's getting old, but come on man! You're putting on a show. Try combing your hair and wearing something besides a wife beater! He looks like he brushed off the Cheetos dust and left the trailer park just in time to make it to the performance.

Oh, and I've heard some Belew that might be loosely described as "rap" or "country." But just as metal fans might be offended by calling them metal, rap and country fans might feel similarly offended. And why not? KC is doing it better than they are!

Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:53 pm**

Malik23 wrote: KC is doing it better than they are!

omg. last person i expected to get it, only person who did.

Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:46 pm**

I thought it was a given that KC does it better than everyone else.

Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:06 pm**

Lucimay wrote:
Malik23 wrote: KC is doing it better than they are!

omg. last person i expected to get it, only person who did.

There's nothing to get, Luci, except parhaps for this: This is where KC comments belong, not Metal or Country/Western.

Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:47 pm**

Last person? I'll try not to take that as anything but a compliment. I think, however, that I have shown I've got decent taste in music, whatever else people might think of me.

Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:19 pm**

Malik23 wrote:Last person? I'll try not to take that as anything but a compliment. I think, however, that I have shown I've got decent taste in music, whatever else people might think of me.

truthfully i haven't paid attention to your musical tastes. i think i quit paying attention when i figured out you're in the Rush Lovers gang. (heh, sorry)
but i'm glad you got my point anyhow.

Posted: **Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:41 am**

dANdeLION wrote:There's nothing to get, Luci, except parhaps for this: This is where KC comments belong, not Metal or Country/Western.

King Crimson's so cool, one time, they cured cancer.

Oh, and they singlehandedly ended the Cold War.

Posted: **Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:39 am**

yeah. they're almost as cool as R U S H.

Posted: **Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:57 pm**

you guys ....

however the You Tube reference reminds me that there are some great Crimso bits on there. And I found an absolute gem with an improvisation bit from Bruford and a Danish pianist named (sp) Badtlan (?). Wow, nearly made me wet myself.
I have to get that DVD and CD!

Posted: **Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:22 am**

since you brought it up, The Dreaming.

The Dreaming wrote:The thing I love about that song (stairway), the words just work so well physically and phonetically. They pop so wonderfully off the tongue, like good poetry can. Only a few bands write lyrics *that* good, and it's spectacular when it works. I *adore* all of Sinfield's lyrics on "In the Court of the Crimson King" and his work with Emerson Lake and Palmer. Karn Evil being a great example. (Soon the gypsy queen in a glaze of Vaseline, will perform on guillotine, what a scene, what a scene; what does it mean? I have no clue, but it sounds *great*)

Say this out loud and you will see what I mean. (Or sing it! It's a lot of fun)

The rusted chains of prison moons
Are shattered by the sun.
I walk a road, horizons change
The tournaments begun.
The purple piper plays his tune,
The choir softly sing;
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue,
For the court of the crimson king.

The keeper of the city keys
Put shutters on the dreams.
I wait outside the pilgrims door
With insufficient schemes.
The black queen chants
The funeral march,
The cracked brass bells will ring;
To summon back the fire witch
To the court of the crimson king.

The gardener plants an evergreen
Whilst trampling on a flower.
I chase the wind of a prism ship
To taste the sweet and sour.
The pattern juggler lifts his hand;
The orchestra begin.
As slowly turns the grinding wheel
In the court of the crimson king.

On soft gray mornings widows cry
The wise men share a joke;
I run to grasp divining signs
To satisfy the hoax.
The yellow jester does not play
But gentle pulls the strings
And smiles as the puppets dance
In the court of the crimson king.

Posted: **Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:27 am**

Lol, my brain is pretty chronicly off-topic.

(I would also like to say that there are moments on THRAK that flirt with metal

) I think Fripp even once called it "Intellegent Metal".

I also *know* I read somewhere that 21st Century Schizoid Man is considered one of the major "proto-metal" songs. (Along with songs Like "I can see for miles" and "Helter Skelter")

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:33 pm**

However, although touring, they so far only have ten dates in the US (grrrrr.) I think they are trying out new material for an upcoming album.
The new line-up has Fripp, Belew, Levin, Matellano, and the drummer from Porcupine Tree (can't recall hi name).
Yah, 2 drummers again... hmmm...

Posted: **Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:56 am**

The Dreaming wrote:The thing I love about that song (stairway), the words just work so well physically and phonetically. They pop so wonderfully off the tongue, like good poetry can. Only a few bands write lyrics *that* good, and it's spectacular when it works. I *adore* all of Sinfield's lyrics on "In the Court of the Crimson King" and his work with Emerson Lake and Palmer. Karn Evil being a great example. (Soon the gypsy queen in a glaze of Vaseline, will perform on guillotine, what a scene, what a scene; what does it mean? I have no clue, but it sounds *great*)

Sinfield did a solo album called 'Still' shortly after Lake left Crimson and also did lyrics on the Lake section of ELPs works album. Lake sang on the album as did a number of guests some of whom have been mentioned in this topic.

I bought the album together with a mate who bought the only other copy in the shop. The cover on one was pink whilst the other was blue, not sure if they were a multitude of colours, but maybe one was a rarity?

Posted: **Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:08 pm**

I got my first album last week - in the court of the crimson king.

After nearly 35 years in the wilderness, at last i am complete.

Honestly. Would I lie?

Posted: **Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:16 pm**

Pan American nightmare
Ten thousand feet fun-fair
Convinced that I don't care
It's safe as houses I swear
I was just sitting musing
The virtues of cruising
When altitude dropping
My ears started popping
One more red nightmare

Sweat beginning to pour down
My neck as I turn round
I heard fortune shouting
Just get off of this outing
A farewell swan song
See you know how turbulence can be
The stewardess made me
One more red nightmare

Reality stirred me
My angel had heard me
The prayer had been answered
A reprieve has been granted
The dream was now broken
Thought rudely awoken
Really safe and sound
Asleep on the Greyhound
One more red nightmare

Posted: **Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:23 pm**

...and???

(mister "give Lucimay a hard time about them all the time")

Posted: **Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:26 pm**

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Crimson is touring!!!!