Kevin's Watch

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2004 8:08 pm**

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Posted: **Sat May 08, 2004 9:39 pm**

Nice nice.. and a great selection there Haruchai

Two connected quotes are probably among mine..

Ur-lord. Free my people. Their plight is an abomination.

Ur-Lord. You are remembered among the Haruchai. Will you set us free? [WHAT?! Cool as u like, behind bars.. and from.. thousands of years ago?? a gold plated OMG moment .. and so nice to have a link to the past again when all else seemed decayed or lost

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Posted: **Sat May 08, 2004 11:18 pm**

Covenant to my namesake, in the forehall of Revelstone:

"Here you can serve something that isn't going to fail you."

Posted: **Sun May 09, 2004 4:32 am**

kaseryn wrote:Nice nice.. and a great selection there Haruchai Two connected quotes are probably among mine..

Ur-lord. Free my people. Their plight is an abomination.

Ur-Lord. You are remembered among the Haruchai. Will you set us free? [WHAT?! Cool as u like, behind bars.. and from.. thousands of years ago?? a gold plated OMG moment .. and so nice to have a link to the past again when all else seemed decayed or lost ]

They were two good quotes.

Posted: **Sun May 09, 2004 8:57 am**

Cheers man, but cmon.. you would say that wouldn't you

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2004 4:59 am**

Of course.

The Haruchai are just too cool.

Posted: **Mon May 10, 2004 5:11 pm**

Thomas Covenant, ur-Lord and Unbeliever, brave white gold wielder-I desire no other end. Do whatever you must, my friend. I am at Peace. I have beheld a marvelous story.

Ah, Foamfollower!!!

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2004 8:21 am**

One of my favorite quotes is from the Illearth war when Hile Troy is speaking with Mhoram about TC in the chapter "Forced march"

"Mhoram, don't you resent him, after what he's done?"

Evenly and openly, Lord Mhoram said, "I have no special virtue to make me resent him. One must have strength in order to judge the weakness of others. I am not so mighty."

To me that is not just a quote but it's a philosophy. IMO it's so profound it made me look at my own values and remember this adage, this axiom for future reference and self behavior.

Inevitably it shows in one swift stroke just how noble and heroic Mhoram, and most of the land's residents are. How mature, altruistic, and profound not just in word but in deed as well. It also shows how unrealistic the characters are in comparison to the real world and the values most people place importance on in modern day society.

Here is more of a bittersweet and sorrowful one.

"Take it. save her." He put the band in Troy's hand.

The touch of the pulsing ring exalted Troy. Clenching his fingers around it, he turned, ran fearlessly to the hillcrest. He searched quickly with his ears, located the direction of Rivenrock, faced the battle. Like a titan, he swung his fist up at the heavens; power flamed from the white gold as if it were answering his passion. In a livid voice, he cried, Elena! Elena!"

Then the tall white singer was at his side. The music took a forbidding note that spread involuntarily stasis like a mist over the Hilltop. Everyone froze, lost the power of movement.

In the stillness, Caerroil Wildwood lifted his gnarled scepter. "No," he trilled, "I cannot permit this.

And of course one of my favorite quotes is in my signature.

Posted: **Sun May 23, 2004 12:02 am**

I loved when HL Mhoram told Covenant that he WAS the white gold.....and again that he WAS the wild magic.....made me shiver... ; )
and this from WGW: sorry it's a bit long, but wonderful.......... .Linden said...
"You were wonderful. But how did you do it? I don't have any idea how you did it."
In response, he sighed--an exhalation of weariness and remembered pain, not of rue. "I don't think I did it at all. All I did was WANT. The rest of it---
Caer -Caveral made it possible. Hile Troy." An old longing sufused his tone. "That was the 'necessity' he talked about. Why he had to give his life. It was the only way to open that particular door. So that Hollian could be brought back. And so that I wouldn't be like the rest of the Dead--unable to act. He broke the Law that would've kept me from opposing Foul. Otherwise Iwould've been just a spectator.
"And Foul didn't understand. Maybe he was too far gone. Or maybe he just refused to believe it, but he tried to ignore the paradox. the paradox of White gold. And the paradox of himself. He wanted the white gold--the ring. But I'm the white gold too. He couldn't change that by killing me. When he hit me with my own fire, he did the one thing I couldn't do for myself. He burned the venom away. After that, I was free."

Posted: **Sun May 23, 2004 4:27 am**

Ah yep thats deffo one of my fav quotes too Lament.. a lot of truth contained in that short passage.

Posted: **Sun May 23, 2004 5:59 am**

Unbeliever, I release you. You turn from us to save life in your own world. We will not be undone by such motives. And if darkness should fall upon us, still the beauty of the Land endures - for you will not forget. Go in peace.

My signature, what else.

Mhoram is so kewl.

Sum sui generis
Vs

Posted: **Mon May 24, 2004 6:02 pm**

Most of my favourite bits have been quoted already, especially Foamfollower's conversation with TC: 'With one word you will make me weep.' But I've always admired some of the verses in the Second Chronicles, especially the love song of Bahgoon the Unbearable, and the sad little song that Pitchwife sang, which Linden seemed to hear again as she was leaving the Land.

Bahgoon's song reminds me of some of Shakespeare's snarkier sonnets:

My love has eyes which do not glow:
Her loveliness is somewhat formed askew,
With blemishes which number not a few,
And pouting lips o’er teeth not in a row.

Her limbs are doughtier than mine,
And what I do not please to give she takes.
Her hair were better kempt with hoes and rakes.
Her kiss tastes less of diamondraught than brine.

Her odorescence gives me ill:
Her converse is by wit or grace unlit:
Her raiment would become her if it fit.
So think of me with rue: I love her still.

Pitchwife's song makes a perfect counterpoint to Bahgoon's, I think, and is one of SRD's best effects — deeply emotional without being sentimental or treacly:

My heart has rooms that sigh with dust
And ashes in the hearth.
They must be cleaned and blown away
By daylight's breath.
But I cannot essay the task,
For even dust to me is dear;
For dust and ashes still recall,
My love was here.

I know not how to say Farewell,
When Farewell is the word
That stays alone for me to say
Or will be heard.
But I cannot speak out that word
Or ever let my loved one go:
How can I bear it that these rooms
Are empty so?

I sit among the dust and hope
That dust will cover me.
I stir the ashes in the hearth,
Though cold they be.
I cannot bear to close the door,
To seal my loneliness away
While dust and ashes yet remain
Of my love's day.

Posted: **Mon May 24, 2004 9:52 pm**

Farseer, I love those as well.....I use a few lines from Pitchwife's song in my "signature"/ ; )

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2004 10:17 am**

I have my First chrons now, but most of my favourite quotes have already been posted. But this one is one that has always stuck in my mind:

Covenant was about to ask what harm he could possibly do the High Lord, but Bannor forestalled him. 'In this place,' the Bloodguard explained, 'the Lords set aside their burdens. Their staffs they leave here, and within these doors they rest, forgetting the cares of the Land. The High Lord honours you greatly in speaking to you here. Without Staff or guard, she greets you as a friend in her sole private place. Ur-Lord, you are not a foe of the Land. But you give little respect. Respect this.'
He held Covenants gave for a moment as if to enforce his words. Then he went and knocked at the door.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2004 11:02 pm**

The old Warmark's voice was gruff with urgency as he said, "High Lord, this risk will weaken Revelstone. A third of the Warward--two thousand lives wasted. High Lord--why? Have you become like Kevin Landwaster? Do you wish to destroy that which you love?"

"No!" Mhoram whispered because the tightness of his throat blocked any other sound. With his hands, he begged Drinny for strength. "I do not--I do not forget--I am the High Lord. The path of faith is clear. I must follow it--because it is not despair."

"You will teach us despair--if you fail."

Mhoram heard the pain in Quaan's voice, and he compelled himself to answer. He could not refuse Quaan's need; he was too weak, but he could not refuse. "No. Lord Foul teaches despair. It is an easier lesson than courage." Slowly, he turned around, met first Quaan's gaze, then the eyes of the Lords. "An easier lesson," he repeated. "Therefore the counsels of despair and hate can never triumph over Despite."

But his reply only increased Quaan's pain. While knuckles of distress clenched Quaan's open face, he moaned brokenly, "Ah, my Lord. Then why do you delay. Why do you fear?"

"Because I am mortal, weak. The way is only clear--not sure. In my time, I have been a seer and oracle. Now I--I desire a sign. I require to see."

He spoke simply, but almost at once his mortality, his weakness, became too much for him. Tears blurred his vision. The burden was not one that he could bear alone. He opened his arms and was swept into the embrace of the Lords.

For me, this has always been one of the most moving moments in TCTC. One cannot help but feel compassion for this gentle, humane man who, when compelled to sacrifice the lives of so many around him desparately looks for a sign of hope. Nevertheless, he is prepared, as Elena said, to "suffer and die without hope."

A couple more . . .

Despair is an emotion like any other. It is the habit of despair that damns, not the despair itself.

Castigation is a doom that achieves itself. In punishing yourself, you come to merit punishment.

Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2004 2:38 am**

Callindrill, that is such a moving quote. There is soooo much in that passage that also relates to life in this present world and makes me realize that althought despair is a strong element (?), it is not the strongest. I particularly like the line you use in your signature. It gives me courage when hope fails.

Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2004 3:36 am**

I don't have TIW in front of me at the moment, but it's something like this:

Covenant: Why are you so weak?

Mhoram: Ah, my friend, I had forgotten that you ask such questions.

Haruchai, I don't remember anyone ever mentioning that moment before, but it's a GREAT one!!!

The way is only clear--not sure.

YES!!!

Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2004 5:30 am**

Love that castigation one.. Atiaran isnt it, great saying. It's ridiculous how much truth and wisdom he puts into these books.. none of it is ever trite

Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:17 pm**

Yes, kas. A teacher once said that if a Bach organ piece had 250 measures, it had 250 virtuoso measures. He didn't write any fluff. SRD neither. Probably not a single sentence that wasn't carefully thought out.

Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:41 pm**

"NOM."
How just one word can do so much!

However, my personal favorite is:
"Do not hurt where holding is enough;
do not wound where hurting is enough;
do not maim where wounding is enough;
and kill not where maiming is enough;
the greatest warrior is he who does not need to kill."

(Illearth War - Seer And Oracle)

Kevin's Watch

Favorite passages (Too geeky? lol sorry)