Just what can Foul do?

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Note bene: I do not consider the Worm "evil". Destruction is necessary to creation. It's more a yin-and-yang thing. I do not believe good and evil have a meaning as concepts on the level of gods.
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Don't forget also at the end of TPTP Covenant makes Foul step back from the Illearth Stone and Foul is still able to fight, albeit a short while.

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You know, this whole topic puts me in mind of a song...

Who can make a Sunbane,
Sprinkle it with rue?
Cover it with Riders, and a Raver-bee or two.
Lord Foul man, Lord Foul man can,
Lord Foul man can cuz he's stuck in the Earth
and the Earth won't do.

Who can take a Rainbow,
Inflict it with a wound?
Put banes in the Earth and make the Land's Creator swoon.
The Despiser man, the Despiser man can,
The Despiser man can cuz he's got it in for Thomas
and the Arch of Time too.

The Grey Slayer makes
everything he hates
Despair-laiden or Corrupted.
He needs to be interrupted
before Mount Thunder has erupted!

Who can take your ex-wife,
Posess her with a dream,
Fill your heart with sorrow and collect your self-esteem.
Lord Foul man, Lord Foul man can,
Lord Foul man can cuz he's archetypal evil
and he smells bad, too.
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:haha: :LOLS: :haha: :LOLS: :haha: :LOLS: :haha:

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Not a speck of hope is showing

So the danger must be growing

Are the fires of the land glowing?

Is the wind of death blowing?

Yes! The danger must be growing

For the portents keep on showing

And they're certainly not slowing

Any signs that they are knowing?

(Lord foul screams. Chaos.)

THOMAS: Oh, make him stop, Creator!

CREATOR: Lord Foul, this has gone far enough!

.... don't laugh I tried my best!
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Grimmand Honninscrave wrote:I beleave it was said somewhere in the books, I can't remember which one, that Foul was the Creators' brother. After the Creator was finished making the earth, he noticed Foul next to him marring his creation. The Creator cast Foul onto his own creation and locked him there with the arch of time. If he is the Creators' brother, then he must have the same powers as the Creator.
I'm thinking that Foul must be diminished in some way by his imprisonment in the Land and the Arch of Time. Otherwise, if he had the Creator's power, wouldn't he just break the Arch and free himself? The Creator supposedly could defeat Foul himself, but he would break the Arch of Time if he were to do so.

Perhaps the Law is what really restrains him from exercising his full power upon the Land, hence the need to use alternate sources of power like the Illearth Stone to accomplish his purposes.

After all, the destruction of the Staff of Law and the subsequent weakening of the Law is what permitted him to heal himself and caused the Sunbane via corruption of the Earthpower. It would seem to stand to reason that the Law would also restrict Foul's ability to do other things that go against the natural order and cut off a good portion of his power as a result.
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ThePumkinKing wrote 2)Foul really enjoys making overly elaborate plans and a nd gets a morbid sense of satisfaction out of making things difficult for himself.
Yea i'll go with this one,a little therapy might fix ole Foul right up(and some little purple pills).
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Post by Grimmand Honninscrave »

Yes, I agree that Foul is diminished by his imprisionment in the Land. He need the White Gold, not natural to the Land, to break the Arch of Time to free himself.
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Wayfriend wrote:You know, this whole topic puts me in mind of a song...

Who can make a Sunbane,
Sprinkle it with rue?
Cover it with Riders, and a Raver-bee or two.
Lord Foul man, Lord Foul man can,
Lord Foul man can cuz he's stuck in the Earth
and the Earth won't do.

Who can take a Rainbow,
Inflict it with a wound?
Put banes in the Earth and make the Land's Creator swoon.
The Despiser man, the Despiser man can,
The Despiser man can cuz he's got it in for Thomas
and the Arch of Time too.

The Grey Slayer makes
everything he hates
Despair-laiden or Corrupted.
He needs to be interrupted
before Mount Thunder has erupted!

Who can take your ex-wife,
Posess her with a dream,
Fill your heart with sorrow and collect your self-esteem.
Lord Foul man, Lord Foul man can,
Lord Foul man can cuz he's archetypal evil
and he smells bad, too.
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High Lord Tolkien wrote:Outstanding!
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Was that to the tune of "The Beverly Hill-billies"? 8)
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Only if Foul can do some of that there Fancey Foot Stompin'!
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Wayfriend, that was brilliant.... Maybe you can help with this one:

White gold in the morning light
Foamfollower says, Whatcha gonna do with your life?
Foamfollower dear you know you're still number one
But Lepers, they wanna have fun
Oh Lepers just wanna have fun

Atruim sings in the stonedowner night
Thomas Covenant has the gold of white
Kevin Landwaster was forced to succumb
But Lepers they wanna have fun
Oh Lepers just wanna have fun...
Now if I could just find a way to wear live bees as jewelry all the time.....

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Cameraman Jenn wrote:Wayfriend, that was brilliant.... Maybe you can help with this one:

White gold in the morning light
Foamfollower says, Whatcha gonna do with your life?
Foamfollower dear you know you're still number one
But Lepers, they wanna have fun
Oh Lepers just wanna have fun

Atruim sings in the stonedowner night
Thomas Covenant has the gold of white
Kevin Landwaster was forced to succumb
But Lepers they wanna have fun
Oh Lepers just wanna have fun...
Oh Lepers, are just outcasts uncle~eeeean...
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[This isn't nearly as good as Wayfriends, but it was fun to make anyway. - dw]

[Sung to our favorite Chapin tune - “Cat’s in the Cradle”]

A leper arrived just the other day
He came to the Land in the usual way
But there were nerves to heal and girls for prey
He started to feel while I was away
And he was balkin' 'fore I knew it, and as he fled
He'd say, "Hell-fire and bloody damna-tion "
"Hell-fire and bloody damna-tion "

Stonedowns, Woodhelven, and Ramen, too
Little Golden Boy and the Message of Doom
"Seven times Seven and you’ll all be dead"
"I’m sick and it’s just in my head, man."
"You all are only in my head."

The leper burned ur-viles just the other day
He said, "Crap – I’m a killer too, I must run away."
"I can teach you control."
He said, "Not today, I don’t wanna be potent"
I said, "That's ok"
And he walked away but his grimace never dimmed
And he said, "Leper outcast un-clean, yeah"
"Leper outcast un-cleannnnn."

Giants, Unfettered, and Waynhim too
Little Golden Boy and a bloody red moon
"Seven times Seven and you’ll all be dead"
"I’m sick and it’s just in my head, man."
"You all are only in my head."

Well, he went to Mt Thunder just the other day
A broken down sacrifice with nothin’ to say
"All is as I have foreseen, can you grovel in the dirt?"
He shook his head and then said with a sour smirk
"What I'd really like, Drool, is to borrow your Staff"
"See you later, can I have it please?"

Lords and Ranyhyn and Bloodguard too
Little Golden Boy and an argent bloom
"Seven times Seven and you’ll all be dead"
"I’m sick and it’s just in my head, man."
"You all are only in my head."

I've long since retired, the leper faded away
But we called him up just the other day
I said, "We really need you if you don't mind"
He said, "I’ve got to save a girl, I don’t have much time"
"You see I’m crazy in the woods and a kid’s been bit"
"Try again when I’m closer to dead, dude"
"Once more when I’m closer to dead."

And as we quit the summons it occurred to me
He's a leper and a freak, yeah
He's a leper and a freak.

And the Illearth Stone made triple Giant badness
then our Tommy boy burned the Staff after madness
"Seven times Seven and you’ll all be dead"
"I’m sick and it’s just in my head, man."
"…but Foul’s gettin on my nerves.."

Revelstone in siege and lake-lava dire
Mhoram’s charge and a Giant pyre
"Seven times Seven” stopped with argent fire
"It’s not all in my head, man."
"It’s not just in my head."

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Very NICE DW!
Now if I could just find a way to wear live bees as jewelry all the time.....

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Awesomeness.
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awesome DW!
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Sung to the Sesame Street Song

Sunbane days,
The Land isn't
A-O-Kay...
On my way
to go and see the Clave...
Can you tell me how to get
How to get to the One Tree?

To the Tune of "Losing my Religion"

Oooh the Land...
It's better...
It's better than you and you are Lord Foul...
The depths that you will sink to...
The yellow of your eyes...

Oh no, I've cared too much...
I haven't cared at all...

That's me in the Banefire...
That's me full of ven-nom...
Alloying my existance...
Trying to burn out you...
And I don't know if I can do it...

Oh no, I've cared too much...
All my friends are dead...

Every whisper
Of every delirious hour
I'm
choosing your destruction...
Trying to shut up Linden...
And I don't know if I can do it (without Kleenex...)

Oh no, I've cared, too much...
I think I cared enough...

Consider this
Consider this
Showdown of the century
Consider this
The fight
That brought me to my knees
Failed
What if my white gold ring goes
clattering down to the floor
and you pick it up?

That's me in the Banefire...
That's me full of ven-nom...
Alloying my existance...
Trying to burn out you...
And I don't know if I can do it...

I thought that I heard you mock me
I thought that I heard your glee
I think I thought I saw you lie...

This could still be a dream...
It could still be a dream...

That's me in the Banefire...
That's me full of ven-nom...
Alloying my existance...
Trying to burn out you...
And I don't know if I can do it...

I thought that I heard you mock me
I thought that I heard your glee
I think I thought I saw you lie...

This could still be a dream!
The Arch of Time's mine
This could be a dream, be a dream
Dream...
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Covenent went down to Andelian
He was looking for some Ghosts to see
He missed his friends
They'd come to an end
He desperately needed some glee

When he came across a Forestal
Who used to be Hile Troy,
Troy couldn't jump up
as he was just a tree stump
and he said "TC, Let me tell you what!"

...

Help?
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