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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:23 pm
by CovenantJr
Myste wrote:How could they leave out the towels? How could they leave out "mostly harmless?" And how, bloody HOW, could they leave out the fact that Arthur's main motivating force in the entire story is to find a decent cup of tea???
And
Zaphod with one head?! No "So we can just take it read that Mr Dent is lying in front of the bulldozer"?! No "It's my pleasure to open for you"?!
Some of the differences are huge, but somehow the small ones are almost worse. It's all in the detail; or, in this case, it's all absent from the detail.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:27 pm
by Myste
Warmark Jay wrote:what's 120 minutes and $9?
120 minutes and $9 is:
a) three chapters of the Chrons, a six pack of microbrew, and a bag of pretzels;
b) two hours among the dollar shelves at a used bookstore;
c) a gallon of milk, a package of Doulbe-Stuf Oreos, and a movie rental you'll actually
enjoy, in the comfort of your own home;
d) food for a family of five in Indonesia for a week, plus two hours volunteering in a homeless shelter;
e) a month's worth of dial-up service and two hours hanging out at KW;
f) three pounds of apples and a styrofoam cooler to bob for them in with all your friends;
g) 3 packages of seeds, 3 pounds of potting soil, a trowel, and some quality outdoor-time;
h) etc., etc., etc.
Life is too short to waste on mind-bogglingly bad movies.
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And, Cov--can you imagine no
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime, doubly so."
No Dentrassis? How the hell do they get on the Vogon ship in the first place?!
And really, no "Mostly harmless"???
Will somebody tell me in exactly which way this movie is
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy??
I'm so irritated I'm repeating myself!
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:39 pm
by CovenantJr
Myste wrote:No Dentrassis?
"They must really hate the Vogons."
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:59 pm
by Edge
Warmark Jay wrote:If not, what's 120 minutes and $9?
In this instance, it's spending time and money to watch the desecration of something you love.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:03 pm
by Warmark Jay
120 minutes and $9 is:
a) three chapters of the Chrons, a six pack of microbrew, and a bag of pretzels;
b) two hours among the dollar shelves at a used bookstore;
c) a gallon of milk, a package of Doulbe-Stuf Oreos, and a movie rental you'll actually enjoy, in the comfort of your own home;
d) food for a family of five in Indonesia for a week, plus two hours volunteering in a homeless shelter;
e) a month's worth of dial-up service and two hours hanging out at KW;
f) three pounds of apples and a styrofoam cooler to bob for them in with all your friends;
g) 3 packages of seeds, 3 pounds of potting soil, a trowel, and some quality outdoor-time;
h) etc., etc., etc.
Life is too short to waste on mind-bogglingly bad movies.
Allow me to retort:
As to:
a) Reading and drinking do not mix (i.e., readingreading andand drinkingdrinking dodo notnot mixmix)
b) Sadly, the ONE used bookstore within twenty miles of my house is owed by a "cat lady" who brings her fifteen furry companions to work with her. My ghastly allergies give me about 10 minutes there).
c) Double-Stuff Oreos are an abomination. Fudge-covered Oreos, on the other hand, are proof of the existence of the Divine.
d) I'll send the starving families my beer, pretzels, and Oreos, since I'm on a diet. Thanks, by the way, for conjuring up old guilt trips my mother used to lay on me when I was six. Only then it was not eating my lima beans, and the starving families were in China proper.
e) Dial-up? What's that? And why spend two hours of my free time at KW when I can spend 8 during the workday and get paid for it?
f) Hmmm - the bobbing for apples? Might be fun. I've actually never done that (see earlier comment on horrid childhood).
g) I live in a two bedroom condo in drought-ravaging southern California. Any attempt at gardening would most likely result in my being shot.
h) Word
All I'm saying is that the movie may bear little or no resemblance to the book, and may flat-out suck. But how will I really know that unless I see it for myself? SRD has gotten some pretty scathing reviews in his day - so should we not bother reading his stuff?
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:30 pm
by Variol Farseer
Warmark Jay wrote:e) Dial-up? What's that? And why spend two hours of my free time at KW when I can spend 8 during the workday and get paid for it?
Does your employer know you're robbing him blind?
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:38 pm
by Warmark Jay
Does your employer know you're robbing him blind?
I work for a major defense contractor. Insert your own $500 hammer joke here.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:22 pm
by Variol Farseer
Fair enough. I just happen to have this old-fashioned belief that if someone is paying me to do a job of work, I ought to do it. If I don't perform, I don't get repeat business.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:03 am
by Myste
Warmark Jay wrote:SRD has gotten some pretty scathing reviews in his day - so should we not bother reading his stuff?
There's a difference between getting a bad review because someone didn't enjoy your original work of art, and getting a bad review because you've royally screwed up an adaptation of a classic.
Douglas Adams himself had lousy reviews in his day. No, it's not a reason not to read his stuff. The quite comprehensive list of what the filmmakers have cut from the story, and the fact that most of the stuff cut was what made the books great, are both excellent reasons not to see what will most likely be an utter travesty.
Btw, why am I paying you to goof off at work? And do you
really pay $500 apiece for hammers? And does the Government know about your aversion to Double-Stuf Oreos? 'Cause that seems un-American to me. I'm telling my State Representative on you. And the makers of the film.
To Warmark
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:19 am
by lurch
Warmark Jay...San diego area? Isn't it great that these aero-space military industrial complex corporations decided to put , not only desk top computers on all our desks,,but,,had them hardwired to the Internet also?
I mean..its GREAT.
now , before anybody in the civilian world gets their panties in a bunch, where I work at has a policy. No porn, no running a e-business off the olde desk top and..be judicial in use of Internet. What does that mean?
If i come thru the gates at 6am and leave work at 2:30, with a half hour for lunch,,and I claim 8 hours worked on the e-time card, i had better not logged a bunch of hours on the internet for that same day. how do they know how much time I log on the internet? The same IT system that acts as firewall, security, porn check,, etc..keeps time on each and everyone of us when we log on to the internet. I've seen folkjs get fired for Time Card Fraud, because, they logged , say 4 hours on Internet yet came thru the gates at 6 and left at 2:30. When IT security sees a problem, then they start realy monitoring,,and,,ANY BODY,,can go to a Supervisor or manager and request that any certain employee be monitored for Internet abuse..anybody. The problem is that the Supervisor is probably playing e-poker when you interrupt him or her.
So,,if I know I spent 3 hours on the Internet,,I stay later at work. If I spent no time on the internet during the 8 hours of work,,i am free to go on the internet for as long as I care to.
There is another side. When something is repeated in a large group meeting by a manager,,that you know you orginated in a internet Chatroom,,while at work,,nothing to do with work mind you,,and its word for word,,like, is it plagerism or a warning shot?
Basically the corp philosophy is that sooner or later the corp gets something of value back by allowing its employees access to the internet.
The Corp also has its own web site. So...
BTW, 500 dollar hammers become 500 dollars hammers because the customer( pentagon) specifies that everything that happens in themaking of it be documented, inspected 10 times, storage of said documents for at least 10 years,,etc. The Pentagon has made major effort in buying the cheaper and easier. " commercial" equivalent everywhere it can. The rest of the stuff,,well, just remember, our fly boys are buzzing around in the product of the ..lowest bidder.....MEL
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:26 am
by Myste
No matter how much I pay the government to buy themselves a hammer, presumably so that they can build me something--
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy movie is still going to suck.
Well..
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:46 am
by lurch
...I did see the BBC serielized version,,thank you PBS many years ago,,and it was cheeky enuf and non-serious enuf in its production values to make it all work. I laffed alot. I have to agree,,that trying to imagine a a "polished" version that is also cut down to 120 minutes or whatever,,is a waste of my thoughts. I'll stick with the books.....MEL
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:37 am
by Dragonlily
I'm pulling my DVD of the BBC miniseries out to rewatch, and savor again, all those jewels of encyclopedia entries.
Two favorites:
1) the major invasion, started by a coincidence of languages and ended in a dog's jaws ...
2) the whale hoping to make friends with a planet, while a bowl of violets ponders reincarnation...
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:47 am
by I'm Murrin
Dragonlily wrote:2) the whale hoping to make friends with a planet
I think I'd actually look forward to hearing Bill Bailey's version of that scene in the movie. Even if the film as a whole is a disappointment, I think there'll still be a few bits of it worth seeing.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:53 pm
by Myste
The Vogon ships in the trailer look exactly right. I don't think much of the ring-shaped Electric Thumb, but it's not a bad idea. But I'm still horribly afraid.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:55 pm
by Warmark Jay
Warmark Jay...San diego area? Isn't it great that these aero-space military industrial complex corporations decided to put , not only desk top computers on all our desks,,but,,had them hardwired to the Internet also?
I mean..its GREAT.
now , before anybody in the civilian world gets their panties in a bunch, where I work at has a policy. No porn, no running a e-business off the olde desk top and..be judicial in use of Internet. What does that mean?
If i come thru the gates at 6am and leave work at 2:30, with a half hour for lunch,,and I claim 8 hours worked on the e-time card, i had better not logged a bunch of hours on the internet for that same day. how do they know how much time I log on the internet? The same IT system that acts as firewall, security, porn check,, etc..keeps time on each and everyone of us when we log on to the internet. I've seen folkjs get fired for Time Card Fraud, because, they logged , say 4 hours on Internet yet came thru the gates at 6 and left at 2:30. When IT security sees a problem, then they start realy monitoring,,and,,ANY BODY,,can go to a Supervisor or manager and request that any certain employee be monitored for Internet abuse..anybody. The problem is that the Supervisor is probably playing e-poker when you interrupt him or her.
So,,if I know I spent 3 hours on the Internet,,I stay later at work. If I spent no time on the internet during the 8 hours of work,,i am free to go on the internet for as long as I care to.
There is another side. When something is repeated in a large group meeting by a manager,,that you know you orginated in a internet Chatroom,,while at work,,nothing to do with work mind you,,and its word for word,,like, is it plagerism or a warning shot?
Basically the corp philosophy is that sooner or later the corp gets something of value back by allowing its employees access to the internet.
The Corp also has its own web site. So...
BTW, 500 dollar hammers become 500 dollars hammers because the customer( pentagon) specifies that everything that happens in themaking of it be documented, inspected 10 times, storage of said documents for at least 10 years,,etc. The Pentagon has made major effort in buying the cheaper and easier. " commercial" equivalent everywhere it can. The rest of the stuff,,well, just remember, our fly boys are buzzing around in the product of the ..lowest bidder.....MEL
MEL - not quite sure I understand your point, as what I said was meant in jest, and hope that it was taken as such.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:06 pm
by Warmark Jay
Oh, and before my own fandom status is questioned, I'll ask this of the group: how many of you have the little green planet-guy from the original covers tattooed on your right shoulder blade?
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:08 pm
by Gadget nee Jemcheeta
Did you ever come to a taco bell in madison ohio?!
I totally met someone with that tattoo... and they didn't look like a scifi fan either, it was wierd. But it was exactly where you described it
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:22 pm
by Warmark Jay
Did you ever come to a taco bell in madison ohio?!
I totally met someone with that tattoo... and they didn't look like a scifi fan either, it was wierd. But it was exactly where you described it
Nope, and now I'm bummed that my tat is no longer officially unique.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:25 pm
by Gadget nee Jemcheeta
oops. my bad....