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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:41 am
by A Gunslinger
DukkhaWaynhim wrote:No, sorry... I actually haven't read beyond W&G
DW
YOU GOTTA READ W & G! It is my favorite of the entire series!!!!!!!!!!
The answer, thankee Sai, is .......
"Her Nibs"
DW...you ask the next one!!!!
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:26 am
by DukkhaWaynhim
Mmmmmmmmmm...kay. Here's one that may be easy:
Which was the first non-DT King work to be referenced in a DT book, and where does it appear? [I'm asking for an approximation only, not book/chapter/verse -- and I'm taking the DT books in order of publish date, not the flashbacks/timeplay that occus within the fabric of the story]
DW
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:37 pm
by Avatar
Damn! The first one I haven't known off the top of my head. I think it was in the Wasteland, one of Eddies "memory" stories...but what it was? Dunno...uh...Guessing Carrie.
--A
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:01 pm
by lucimay
for some reason i keep thinking it was even earlier, in The Drawing of the Three or maybe even The Gunslinger...
something keeps niggling in my head that was alluded to or said while Roland was in that town...where he slept with that woman...
sheesh...i'm pretty sure i'm gonna have to read the damn books again to participate in this game!!!

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:48 pm
by A Gunslinger
DW.... In the first book, The Gunslinger, Walter himself is a reference to both the Eyes f the Dragon and the Stand as he is both Flaggs... is that what you mean?
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:16 pm
by lucimay
i think he's looking for a specific direct reference, Guns.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:18 pm
by DukkhaWaynhim
What Luci said, and she is warmest so far to what I'm thinking of.
[The more I think about it, this is a fairly subjective question, isn't it?]
DW
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:23 pm
by lucimay
DukkhaWaynhim wrote:What Luci said, and she is warmest so far to what I'm thinking of.
[The more I think about it, this is a fairly subjective question, isn't it?]
DW
no! i think its a GREAT trivia question!!! if anybody get's it, spoiler please!!
i'm gonna go home this evening and scan through. i think there is a
direct reference to SOMEthing in Gunslinger...or, if not...definitely in Drawing of the Three.
ack. i just KNOW i know this.
did i say i love this game?

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:08 pm
by A Gunslinger
Now I'm gonna have to really think.... hmmmm.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:24 pm
by A Gunslinger
Is it in The Gunslinger? Referring to the Land of 19...as they do in "Bag of Bones"?
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:45 am
by lucimay
i found that part about the
squished nuts
ugh!
that whole discription of jake laying in the street makes ya queasy!!
also, i thought of the first reference i can think of, i'm sure this is what first made me START looking for connections to other King stories in the DT books.
jake's name. it's jake
chambers.
same as another of King's main characters. the disaffected but brilliant Chris Chambers in The Body.
also you can't miss the young boy/protector adult male relationship between Roland and Jake is
very similar to Ben Mears and Mark Petrie in Salem's Lot...which story, as we know, figures heavily later in the series.
i thought what DW's looking for might be found at The Manhattan Restaurant of the Mind (The Wastelands) , but i've checked and come up with nothing.
i'm going to peruse further.
i must know!!!

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:37 pm
by DukkhaWaynhim
Luci pegged what I was thinking of. 'John Chambers' is the boy's name but he says 'You can call me Jake.'
As you all probably know much better than I, The Gunslinger is one of King's earliest-started and slowest-to-write works, so it was percolating through his head when he was writing other stories like the Shining, 'Salem's Lot, and the Stand [or so he says in the Afterword of The Gunslinger].
Can anyone locate and throw up a list of his books in order of publish dates, or better yet, their writing dates?
I like the story of DT, but I'm positively fascinated by the time-sequence and the intermingling of his other stories into it.
DW
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:31 pm
by A Gunslinger
This might help!
www.thedarktower.net/connections/essay/
Check it out!
New Question:
After Rhea of the Coos is injured at the end of W & G, how does she heal herself?
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:56 am
by Avatar
By drinking the blood of Susan's Aunt.
(I thought you meant where a character actually talks about a King book, in the story DW, and I'm sure that Eddie mentions it, (although Lucimay is right...in tDotT), something like..."Like in that damn book by King..."
Anyway, I'll wait for Guns to tell me if I was right before posting a question.
--A
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:45 pm
by DukkhaWaynhim
Yeah, Av, after I asked it, I figured it was a pretty subjective question (or too loosely worded, maybe?). Luci got what I was thinking of, though - you know, that whole 'great minds...' thing?
DW
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:37 pm
by A Gunslinger
Avatar wrote:By drinking the blood of Susan's Aunt.
(I thought you meant where a character actually talks about a King book, in the story DW, and I'm sure that Eddie mentions it, (although Lucimay is right...in tDotT), something like..."Like in that damn book by King..."
Anyway, I'll wait for Guns to tell me if I was right before posting a question.
--A
You are correct!
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:37 pm
by lucimay
but you guys...guess what...this "perusing" to find the first diRECT reference has lead to me scanning through each chapter of The Gunslinger,
scanning more meticulously through and damn near re-reading The Drawing of the Three, especially the drawing of Eddie because i think what Avatar obviously thinks, that Eddie mentions something about King or a King story....and then, actually re-reading The Wastelands (no internetz for all day yesterday!!) and i'm up to Lud and not quite to Tick Tock Man and still no DIRECT reference. i'm thinking maybe there's no actual DIRECT reference to other King stories until end of Wastelands or possibly even Wizard & Glass!!
(ah these small obsessions

)
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:32 pm
by A Gunslinger
Lucimay wrote:but you guys...guess what...this "perusing" to find the first diRECT reference has lead to me scanning through each chapter of The Gunslinger,
scanning more meticulously through and damn near re-reading The Drawing of the Three, especially the drawing of Eddie because i think what Avatar obviously thinks, that Eddie mentions something about King or a King story....and then, actually re-reading The Wastelands (no internetz for all day yesterday!!) and i'm up to Lud and not quite to Tick Tock Man and still no DIRECT reference. i'm thinking maybe there's no actual DIRECT reference to other King stories until end of Wastelands or possibly even Wizard & Glass!!
(ah these small obsessions

)
I know the Wastelands mentiona Captain Trips-ravaged Topeka!
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:34 pm
by lucimay
well i'm not there yet...i'm just at Lud.

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:47 am
by Avatar
That doesn't count as what we're looking for though. What we want is Eddie actually saying the name Stephen King, and the title of a book he wrote.
Anyway, question...Uh...ok, easy one:
What was Susan's aunts name?
--A