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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:33 pm
by drew
Why did the Captain try to warn everyone..in LATIN?
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:14 am
by onewyteduck
cheval wrote:onewyteduck wrote:Solaris *YAWN*
Agreed!
(You actually stayed
AWAKE during the movie???)
Boring plot, but it did have a few good moments... But I blinked and missed both of them.
I think I lasted the first 30 minutes or so. I told the hubby good night, took my book and went to bed. He said it never got any better!
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:03 am
by matrixman
Actually, I liked Solaris. Then again, I also liked 2001: A Space Odyssey. Something...about...really...slow...movies...hypnotizes...me...
aTOMic wrote:I tend to agree with most of the discussion with the exception of all of the Star Trek films with one horrible exception. You know which one I mean. I can't bring myself to say the name it offended me so much.
I just knew it was going to be either you or me that would mention this unmentionable Trek film!
My pick as one of the worst sci-fi travesties -- the smelly, lethal chunk of cinematic kryptonite called Superman IV: The Quest For Peace. So awful it killed the Chris Reeve-era Superman franchise.
(I suppose it could be debated that Superman is really fantasy rather than sci-fi...but a flying man is no more fantastic than giant bugs that can fire plasma out of their butts, heh heh.
)
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:16 am
by aTOMiC
Matrixman wrote:Actually, I liked Solaris. Then again, I also liked 2001: A Space Odyssey. Something...about...really...slow...movies...hypnotizes...me...
aTOMic wrote:I tend to agree with most of the discussion with the exception of all of the Star Trek films with one horrible exception. You know which one I mean. I can't bring myself to say the name it offended me so much.
I just knew it was going to be either you or me that would mention this unmentionable Trek film!
My pick as one of the worst sci-fi travesties -- the smelly, lethal chunk of cinematic kryptonite called Superman IV: The Quest For Peace. So awful it killed the Chris Reeve-era Superman franchise.
(I suppose it could be debated that Superman is really fantasy rather than sci-fi...but a flying man is no more fantastic than giant bugs that can fire plasma out of their butts, heh heh.
)
HOOORAY! MATRIX WINS! (I think a guy from another planet qualifies as sci fi)
I'm embarassed that I didn't think Superman IV the Quest for Peace. (I used to think SUPERGIRL was the worst and most offensive film I had ever seen. I am a fan of Peter O'toole and seeing him in that pile of rubbish was.........ugh.........)
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:43 am
by safetyjedi
I am embarrassed that I spent money to see Event Horizon. It was simply put, H. P. Lovecraft in space, a complete rip off of one of his stories.
I walked out of Superman IV, it gave Superman a bad case of asteroids.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:11 am
by High Lord Tolkien
I read that the original script for Superman V had him using rocket boots to fly to a space ship that had been missing for 7 years. We learn that Lois is dead and Superman has to keep Lex Luthor from cutting off his head with a kryptonite sword all the while keeping Santa from being destroyed by plasma farting Martians.
It was going to be an EPIC!
Carman Electra as Lois Lane!
Pauly Shore as Jimmy Olsen!
Ernest Borgnine as Perry White!
Coolio as Lex Luthor!
But when Sylvester Stallone refuse the role of Superman (he was focused on the Rocky V blockbuster) it all fell apart.
I understand they are planning to try it again in 2006.
Good luck to them.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:06 am
by Loredoctor
Each to their own opinion, but I loved Event Horizon.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:22 am
by danlo
Yeah REALLY! Don't dis my fav SF movie or a friend of mine is going to pay you a visit!
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:03 am
by dennisrwood
Dune was a mess.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:21 pm
by Warmark
danlo wrote:Yeah REALLY! Don't dis my fav SF movie or a friend of mine is going to pay you a visit!
<Shakes in his Rocket boots>
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:30 pm
by dANdeLION
High Lord Tolkien wrote:drew wrote:Starship Troopers = Spaceships, killing giant bugs, and naked chicks...how can that even be concidered a Bad movie?
Giant bugs who fire plasma bolts out their butts from the planets surface to destroy orbiting, galaxy-crossing starships?
(although the laser shield was a good idea)
Actually, that was one of the few parts I liked. As for the shower scenes, the movie had Denise Richards, but she wasn't in the shower scene, which should be considered a felony in at least 48 states. I have to be honest here about whoever that other girl that got all the nude parts; she was all right, but seriously; they had Denise Richards in the freaking movie! Wake up!!
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:41 pm
by Warmark
dANdeLION wrote:High Lord Tolkien wrote:drew wrote:Starship Troopers = Spaceships, killing giant bugs, and naked chicks...how can that even be concidered a Bad movie?
Giant bugs who fire plasma bolts out their butts from the planets surface to destroy orbiting, galaxy-crossing starships?
(although the laser shield was a good idea)
Actually, that was one of the few parts I liked. As for the shower scenes, the movie had Denise Richards, but she wasn't in the shower scene, which should be considered a felony in at least 48 states. I have to be honest here about whoever that other girl that got all the nude parts; she was all right, but seriously; they had Denise Richards in the freaking movie! Wake up!!
Couldnt agree more, she did get to be a crap over confident pilot though.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:19 pm
by dennisrwood
see Wild Things for excellent 'acting' from Denise Richards.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:49 pm
by Warmark
dennisrwood wrote:
see Wild Things for excellent 'acting' from Denise Richards.
she was pretty bad in that.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:56 pm
by aTOMiC
Anyone think LASERBLAST was a good film?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:58 pm
by dANdeLION
spock wrote:If we were to go by the book, then, when a naked Denise Richards is involved, bad would seem like good.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:09 pm
by Nav
Cail wrote:Drew, I'm with you, I thought Event Horizon was garbage. Interesting premise that was absolutely fumbled by a thoroughly untalented director.
A friend of mine worked on Event Horizon and he gets very upset when people diss it. Basically they went so
hideously over-budget that the studio came in and just started pulling pages out of the script. They lost a number of important scenes which, in his opinion, would have rounded out the film quite nicely.
I think it has its moments and is visually impressive, but a lot of the scenes in between just scream "filler".
Supernova was so awful that the sight of Robin Tunney naked can't even make it watchable. The deleted scenes were perhaps most impressive: they actually found a few more bad SF cliches and didn't use them.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:44 pm
by Cheval
How about "The Black Hole", did anybody else think that it sucked too?
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:16 pm
by Loredoctor
I loved it!
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:46 am
by matrixman
I'm fond of The Black Hole as well: it was a seminal movie experience of my childhood. I won't defend the infamously bad dialogue, but I can overlook that particular weakness in view of the sheer visual wonder of the film and its overall conception. Also, the Cygnus remains in my mind one of the most majestic spaceships in the history of sci-fi cinema -- an awe-inspiring, cosmic cathedral.
It also occurs to me that, as far as I know, this is the only movie in which a robotic intelligence (Vincent) is unambiguously portrayed as possessing ESP powers. And the fact that Vincent also survives the journey through the black hole along with his human companions implies a deeper meaning: I think it means that he is something more than mere machine, that he has, for all intents and purposes, a soul. You may laugh, but this movie is, after all, about the deep mysteries of the universe. So for me, Vincent represents another deep mystery: the imperceptible divide between living and inert matter. Are machines doomed to be only cold circuits merely imitating life, or can they truly be spiritual beings? That is a question posed by the delightful enigma of Vincent. Given the deep (some would say heavy-handed) symbolism of the "Heaven & Hell" sequence as we travel through the black hole, it's not out of line to also attach a greater symbolism to the nature of Vincent.
Okay, I think I've earned some geek points for turning The Black Hole into a discussion about the inner nature of cute, mind-reading robots.