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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:32 pm
by Loredoctor
Okay, I've calmed down now.

Don't get me wrong, I love playing the God of Malice and Mutation. I admit that Nor is pretty deceitful at times, but many times he's been completely honest. You'd be surprised at what he's really like. Yes, I took it hard what has happened.

I am not upset at Murrin (masterfully played, by the way). But I disagree with how easy it is to edit pms. I have never done that to anyone. But I do admit to going too far by being misleading to Norn (in msn). However, it was only to cover up an attack on Bhakti.

I'll probably keep playing now. But Nor will make some things clear.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:33 pm
by Simjen
I thought it generally understood that whatever a god says, either in a PM or in a thread, is to be taken with a grain of salt (or a shaker, depending on the god). Only what Xar tells you can be assumed to be completely true.

No reason to stop, Lore. You're playing a very interesting character, and you're in a very good position, strengthwise.

Hmm. Considering we are gods, perhaps a kind of oath is in order? If we swear by the Allfather, it seems reasonable that if someone presents a falsehood to the Allfather given under his name, he has a right to punish the offending deity. I'd think it should only be invoked in grave circumstances, though, lest we trouble him with all of our petty concerns. Perhaps a lesser oath... say, if I swore by my godly forge?

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:36 pm
by Benito Alvarez
Almost as in Hackmaster.

Spunds good to me. Godly oaths broken are to be punishably by Xar. Sounds good. However, I would think that such oaths should gbe limited to the Game Thread.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:38 pm
by Bhakti
Nothing changes for me, since I always knew Yek was not trustworthy, and was eventually going to come after me. Most everything I do is in preparation of that. Hey, how can Love and Malice not be at odds?


But how does one present a falsehood to the Allfather? If I devote a DRP to something in my email to Him, it is done. I can't then say, "Ha! Despite telling Xar I was going to do X, I did Y!" Xar's response is, "No you didn't. You did X."

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:39 pm
by balon!
Darn. I always thought I was safe with "Y"

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:40 pm
by Waddley
Bhakti wrote:Hey Waddley, when did you ever need protecting??
When I feared the God of War. Dude, I don't care how much more population I have. He's still the god of Freaking war.

And dude, Loremaster.... here I thought *I* was the one with PMS today. You git. Here's what I do when I'm being moody: I type up what I want to post. Then I go eat some chocolate. Then I come back and look at what I wanted to post and see if I still want to. Usually, I don't.

It'll work. Trust me.

;)

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:42 pm
by I'm Murrin
You played the game too well, Lore--I never knew when you were honest or lying.
I agree that PMs are a difficult and unwieldy way of handling the issues in this game. But the politics and the things going on in the background are the most interesting part (and I thank Lore for that; I do not think so much careful maneuvering was needed before Nor Yekith).
If I pass information on from one to another, I speak only the facts of it. When I quote, I remove nested quotes only and leave the words untouched. I may attempt to mislead by what I do and do not say, but I do not lie outright. I expect the others I speak with to do the same.


edit: a lot of posts while I was writing that. An oath not to lie outright? I would prefer if it could be assumed to be so, but in these circumstances...

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:42 pm
by balon!
Or mangos. Heard they're very soothing.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:58 pm
by Loredoctor
Murrin wrote:You played the game too well, Lore--I never knew when you were honest or lying.
I agree that PMs are a difficult and unwieldy way of handling the issues in this game. But the politics and the things going on in the background are the most interesting part (and I thank Lore for that; I do not think so much careful maneuvering was needed before Nor Yekith).
Thanks, Murrin.

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:05 am
by I'm Murrin
On a completely unrelated issue, my PM box is getting so full I'll soon have to start deleting important messages from earlier in the game. Has anyone thought of a way to cope?

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:06 am
by Loredoctor
Murrin wrote:On a completely unrelated issue, my PM box is getting so full I'll soon have to start deleting important messages from earlier in the game. Has anyone thought of a way to cope?
select all and then save. it moves them to another folder that has 200% storage.

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:07 am
by I'm Murrin
My save folder is the one that's getting full, heh. It's gone up by 30% today.

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:09 am
by Loredoctor
Murrin wrote:My save folder is the one that's getting full, heh. It's gone up by 30% today.
:lol:

Sorry, everyone for getting worked up. Not feeling the best this morning.

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:10 am
by Waddley
Or just stop being so darn popular :P

I tend to delete most of my PM's, anyway... silly me.

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:18 am
by I'm Murrin
I forget pretty much everything. I was going through the PMs looking for something to delete when I found one that I'd forgotten about--it was a message I got only a couple of days ago, reminding me about something I'd forgotten. :lol:

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:25 am
by Waddley
Haha, I forget things, too. That's why it's silly of me to delete. I forgot to do something last turn that I said I would because of it... It's hard to go against the hair color, it really is.

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:28 am
by Mithyaat Vam
hey!

What's going on? What did I miss? Did we have an event or drama?

I was sleeping.

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:35 am
by Waddley
Nothing to see here. These are not the gods you're looking for.

Move along, move along.


------
Waddley, master of jedi-like hand movements

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:37 am
by Bhakti
There is no way I know of to deceive Xar.

As for deceiving each other, that's life, eh? We may choose to NOT trust someone. Or we may choose to trust until that trust is betrayed. Then we may choose to forgive or never trust again. Some will lie well, and never get caught. Not often, though.


PLAY BALL!!!!

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:39 am
by Waddley
I don't think the earlier discusse point was to deceive Xar.

I believe they were talking about making an oath, and swearing on the AllFather, as something sacred that none would dare break. That way if one of them broke it, Xar could punish them.