Kevin's Watch

Congrats to the nursery-rhyme related folk!

Both great contributers to the life of the Watch.

Hail!



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congrats shadowbinding shoe

Congrats, shaun! Your presence around here is much appreciated and enjoyed!!

Congrats to Mr. Shoe and Ms. Schaf!

WTG shoe and SdS!

Congrats Shaun and SS. (Does SS ever come out of the 'Tank? )

And Shaun...only 1,000 posts? It should be much more.

--A

congrats sheepster

Avatar wrote:Congrats Shaun and SS. (Does SS ever come out of the 'Tank? )

And Shaun...only 1,000 posts? It should be much more.

--A

Is that how it's done?

Iolanthe wrote:Congrats ShadowbindingShoe and to my watchy daughter Shaun who I'm glad to see is not wasting her time on internet forum sites but reading a good old classic like Wuthering Heights instead!

Haha, you got me. Of course my 'I'll just check the Watch for 5 mins' turned into 3 hours on the net and a very late night. Wuthering Heights is awesome btw. Such a shame how this, (and other Bronte/Austen works), have been portrayed in popular culture as 'chick lit'/women's romance, when it's actually a brutal exploration of class, family violence, prejudice, nature vs nurture, and revenge, among many other things. I was on the phone to my dad - an experience that often leaves me fuming - and told him what I was reading, to which he replied, "I'm not a fan of Jane Austen." I said, "Well you should like this one, it's by Emily Bronte." The point is he lumps all these fine works together as some kind of 'hearts and corsets trash' not worthy of a man and his 'serious politics'.

I'll just lie down here on this couch and unload more repressed rage around my father shall I?

Also, this really should be in General Literature!

P.S Thanks Linna and everyone for the milestone congrats.

Shaun das Schaf wrote:...I was on the phone to my dad - an experience that often leaves me fuming - and told him what I was reading, to which he replied, "I'm not a fan of Jane Austen." I said, "Well you should like this one, it's by Emily Bronte." The point is he lumps all these fine works together as some kind of 'hearts and corsets trash' not worthy of a man and his 'serious politics'.

I'll just lie down here on this couch and unload more repressed rage around my father shall I?

Also, this really should be in General Literature!

...Or the Depression thread!
Dads can be so inconvenient to try to carry on a conversation with...
They can be SO patronizing!

OTOH, one thing I've just noticed lately is that my dad really does have a few decades of life experience on me, and --no matter what I do-- I never seem to be able to catch up!
</inner Valley-girl>

Shaun das Schaf wrote:Such a shame how this, (and other Bronte/Austen works), have been portrayed in popular culture as 'chick lit'/women's romance, when it's actually a brutal exploration of class, family violence, prejudice, nature vs nurture, and revenge, among many other things.

Of course. And Tenant of Wildfell Hall involves a drunken abusive husband. Have you read any George Elliot? Silas Marner? Mill on the Floss? Middlemarch (my favourite)? Or Trollope? I simply love his Barchester books, The Warden being the first one, and his Palliser novels are good too. Phineas Finn covers murder, an adulterous wife, well nearly, and politics as well as other subjects. That I love Jane Austin goes without saying, of course. If you like dark and broody, go for Thomas Hardy, although Under the Greenwood Tree is a delightful short love story, very funny in places.

And I suppose this should be in Movies, but...

Earlier this week, I watched (again -- I'd seen it in the theater when it first came out) the most recent film version of "Jane Eyre", and loved it all over again. I really believe this is the best film adaptation, for two reasons: 1) Michael Fassbender makes a terrific Rochester, and 2) this version does the best job of incorporating the part of the book involving St. Jean and his sisters. The novel was my favorite book all through my teens, until I read the 1st Chrons. Half passionate love story, half Gothic horror story, and definitely *not* chick lit.

Linna Heartlistener wrote:

Shaun das Schaf wrote:...I was on the phone to my dad - an experience that often leaves me fuming - and told him what I was reading, to which he replied, "I'm not a fan of Jane Austen." I said, "Well you should like this one, it's by Emily Bronte." The point is he lumps all these fine works together as some kind of 'hearts and corsets trash' not worthy of a man and his 'serious politics'.

I'll just lie down here on this couch and unload more repressed rage around my father shall I?

Also, this really should be in General Literature!

...Or the Depression thread!
Dads can be so inconvenient to try to carry on a conversation with...
They can be SO patronizing!

OTOH, one thing I've just noticed lately is that my dad really does have a few decades of life experience on me, and --no matter what I do-- I never seem to be able to catch up!
</inner Valley-girl>

Lol, that sure is true, though sometimes the experiences just cements the rigidity!
And yes, true my post could easily have gone in the depression thread but I like to treat my depression like I do the cat hair on the floor: if I don't look at it, it ain't there! And yes, it's just as successful a tactic as not vacuuming.

Iolanthe wrote:

Shaun das Schaf wrote:Such a shame how this, (and other Bronte/Austen works), have been portrayed in popular culture as 'chick lit'/women's romance, when it's actually a brutal exploration of class, family violence, prejudice, nature vs nurture, and revenge, among many other things.

Of course. And Tenant of Wildfell Hall involves a drunken abusive husband. Have you read any George Elliot? Silas Marner? Mill on the Floss? Middlemarch (my favourite)? Or Trollope? I simply love his Barchester books, The Warden being the first one, and his Palliser novels are good too. Phineas Finn covers murder, an adulterous wife, well nearly, and politics as well as other subjects. That I love Jane Austin goes without saying, of course. If you like dark and broody, go for Thomas Hardy, although Under the Greenwood Tree is a delightful short love story, very funny in places.

Iolanthe, I've got so many great classics awaiting me. Jane Eyre is next, then probably ToWH and Middlemarch. I was going to say, 'sadly' this is a very neglected area of my reading, but it's actually a wonderful thing to think they're all waiting for me like a big pile of lollies! (Fine wine would have probably been a better simile, but I like lollies ) I'll print your list out and put it on the pile. Of course, it could take a while to get to since someone who shall not remain nameless-Iolanthe!- recently inspired me to get a bunch of Terry Pratchett books.

aliantha wrote:And I suppose this should be in Movies, but...

Earlier this week, I watched (again -- I'd seen it in the theater when it first came out) the most recent film version of "Jane Eyre", and loved it all over again. I really believe this is the best film adaptation, for two reasons: 1) Michael Fassbender makes a terrific Rochester, and 2) this version does the best job of incorporating the part of the book involving St. Jean and his sisters. The novel was my favorite book all through my teens, until I read the 1st Chrons. Half passionate love story, half Gothic horror story, and definitely *not* chick lit.

Hey Ali, this is the version I just recently made a trailer for (and some other bits last year.) I'm a massive Michael Fassbender fan - who isn't!? - and also like Mia Wasikowska, and I did like this, I just didn't buy the chemistry and love between them. I felt like they got the casting wrong. The cinematography was fantastic, ditto sound and set design, but I agree with one reviewer, whose name I can't recall: "not the best version, not the worst, somewhere in the middle."

That said, given I hadn't read the novel, I didn't realise Jane was that young in the book, and may have been put off by what felt almost paedophilic in their relationship. Wasikowska just seemed too young for Fassbender.

Well well, Ms Mary would be SO proud of us for the thread drift here

Shaun das Schaf wrote: Iolanthe, I've got so many great classics awaiting me. Jane Eyre is next, then probably ToWH and Middlemarch. I was going to say, 'sadly' this is a very neglected area of my reading, but it's actually a wonderful thing to think they're all waiting for me like a big pile of lollies! (Fine wine would have probably been a better simile, but I like lollies ) I'll print your list out and put it on the pile. Of course, it could take a while to get to since someone who shall not remain nameless-Iolanthe!- recently inspired me to get a bunch of Terry Pratchett books.

Don't panic, when I was your age I was heavily into detective fiction. You have oodles of time to catch up! You are sooooooooo lucky! Imagine only finding out about Terry Pratchett when you're 60!!

Oh my, Iolanthe -- you've got quite the slog ahead of you!

Shaun das Schaf wrote:That said, given I hadn't read the novel, I didn't realise Jane was that young in the book, and may have been put off by what felt almost paedophilic in their relationship. Wasikowska just seemed too young for Fassbender.

Well well, Ms Mary would be SO proud of us for the thread drift here

She would, wouldn't she? And yes, Jane was only 19 when she went to work for Rochester. But yeah, he had a few bats in his own belfry. You edited a trailer for this movie? How cool! Link?

Indeed, I am.

Good work on the thread drift, folks!

Linna Heartlistener wrote:Congrats, shaun! Your presence around here is much appreciated and enjoyed!!

Oh, and very much this!

Glad you're here, Shaun!

aliantha wrote:Oh my, Iolanthe -- you've got quite the slog ahead of you!

No. Haven't had such fun reading for years since I found these TP books.

How I envy you. He's been one of my favourite authors for years.

Bitter-sweet though, to have found them so near to the end of his own run, poor guy. He says his daughter will continue them, but it won't be the same.

--A

MsMary wrote:

aliantha wrote:

Shaun das Schaf wrote:That said, given I hadn't read the novel, I didn't realise Jane was that young in the book, and may have been put off by what felt almost paedophilic in their relationship. Wasikowska just seemed too young for Fassbender.

Well well, Ms Mary would be SO proud of us for the thread drift here

She would, wouldn't she? And yes, Jane was only 19 when she went to work for Rochester. But yeah, he had a few bats in his own belfry. You edited a trailer for this movie? How cool! Link?

Indeed, I am.

Good work on the thread drift, folks!

No worries.

As I'm the Queen of Off-Topic Posts, such thread drift is perfectly fine in here.