Battlestar Galactica Season 4-Expect Spoilers

Post by **Zahir** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:17 pm

My own take was that Kara Thrace was the Harbinger of Death in several ways: I.e. she was the Harbinger from death (i.e. resurrected), the Harbinger of the Dead (the 13th Colony), and the Harbinger of the Death of this Age.

Post by **The Dreaming** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:02 am

Harbinger of death can be explained that way yes, but what about "she is the one who will destroy her species" That's what set the whole season up, and its confusing the hell out of me. Its the only really prickly inconstancy I see with the ending.

Post by **sindatur** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:02 am

The Dreaming wrote:Harbinger of death can be explained that way yes, but what about "she is the one who will destroy her species"

Her species abandoned their culture and bred with the neandrathalls. What was born from that was "Hera's children", the new race that was neither Colonial, Cylon, nor Neandrathall. Remember the Colonials and rebel cylons arrived 150,000 years ago, no true advancement that was made that might be attributed to the Colonial influence happened until about 140,000 to 145,000 years later. Kara's species did get destroyed, and from it grew the future...

Post by **Loredoctor** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:26 am

I finished Battlestar Galactica season 4 last week. Most of the episodes were excellent (especially No Exit), and the finale was great. A few questions remain. Jimmy Hendrix plays that song in the modern age. What does that mean he is? Second, it was established that basestars were outside of the colony. So, are there still Cavils, 2s, 3s, 4s and 5s out there?

Post by **[Syl]** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:21 am

What does [that] mean he is?

An agent of God, of course.

Post by **Loredoctor** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:32 am

That doesn't answer it. Or maybe I should have written, What purpose does Hendrix serve?

Post by **Cail** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:50 am

First of all, it's actually a Dylan song.....

I think it was nothing more elaborate than a, "hey, we know that song" opportunity that established a link between the Cylons and the people of today's Earth (which are part Cylon). I thought it was sort of a cheap trick.

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:53 am

Loremaster wrote:So, are there still Cavils, 2s, 3s, 4s and 5s out there?

I thought that all of the basestars were near the singularity at the end.

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:11 am

Make up your mind, Cail. Is it Hendrix, Dylan, or Cheap Trick?

Post by **Cail** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:22 am

<rimshot>

I think DLB is right, the rest of the Basestars got eaten up.

Post by **Zahir** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:32 pm

Hardly matters. Without the Resurrection Ship, the Humanoid Cylons as a race are doomed.

Post by **Loredoctor** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:14 am

As far as I can recall, it was never established that all of the Basestars were in orbit of the Singularity.

Zahir, it does matter. If it's accepted that the rebel cylons (Centurions) could 'live' on, any of Cavil's surviving Basestars would also contain centurions. Now the difference between them is that the rebels were altered, but the remaining Cavils may have been forced to improve their own to help their race survive - skinjobs or not.

Post by **Zahir** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:35 pm

Or, one might easily assume that the Humanoid Cylons--those few who survived--died out and never altered their Centurions, because to do so would admit they were wrong.

Either way, it seems obvious that the Cylons other than those with the Colonial Fleet were devastated. Could one spin a tale about their survival? Yeah. Just as one could tell the story of the Death Eaters who survived the final death of Voldemort or the Orcs after the fall of Sauron. Nor would those be uninteresting stories. But I wouldn't feel cheated at never having them written or even hinted at.

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:15 am

In case anyone is interested in buying the complete series on blu-ray, be sure to check out some of the customer reviews. It seems the packaging for the discs leave much to be desired, and the discs themselves aren't labeled to indicate which episodes are on which discs.

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:27 am

Letterman Show, Top 10 reasons to watch the 4th season of BSG, with the cast.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YatjlSJNRHM

I'm on a roll tonight. WHEEEEEE!!!!!!

Here's another. If you haven't watched any of the frakkin shart I've posted tonight, watch this one:

Robot Chicken's take on BSG:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4x-FMGbbGU

Now, where the frak did I put my Ambien?

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:44 am

Like the guy said in Jurrasic Park, life finds a way. (Something like that.) The cylons would be procreating soon enough, I'm sure.

Great Top 10 on Letterman!

Lore, where's you sig? That's my favorite moment from the entire series!

Post by **High Lord Tolkien** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:27 pm

sindatur wrote: Remember the Colonials and rebel cylons arrived 150,000 years ago, no true advancement that was made that might be attributed to the Colonial influence happened until about 140,000 to 145,000 years later.

I disagree.
That's the beauty of this idea.
The Colonials/Cylons did establish advanced cultures that went on to influence the ancient cultures that we know about.
Clearest case for this is the ancient Egyptian using Colonial names and legends for their language and faiths.
And then the most famous lost Colonial/Cylon/Human civilization of them all - Atlantis.

Post by **sindatur** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:06 pm

High Lord Tolkien wrote:
sindatur wrote: Remember the Colonials and rebel cylons arrived 150,000 years ago, no true advancement that was made that might be attributed to the Colonial influence happened until about 140,000 to 145,000 years later.
I disagree.
That's the beauty of this idea.
The Colonials/Cylons did establish advanced cultures that went on to influence the ancient cultures that we know about.
Clearest case for this is the ancient Egyptian using Colonial names and legends for their language and faiths.
And then the most famous lost Colonial/Cylon/Human civilization of them all - Atlantis.

Yea, but, that would've only been about 5000-10,000 years ago, not 150,000.

Post by **High Lord Tolkien** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:09 am

sindatur wrote:
High Lord Tolkien wrote:
sindatur wrote: Remember the Colonials and rebel cylons arrived 150,000 years ago, no true advancement that was made that might be attributed to the Colonial influence happened until about 140,000 to 145,000 years later.
I disagree.
That's the beauty of this idea.
The Colonials/Cylons did establish advanced cultures that went on to influence the ancient cultures that we know about.
Clearest case for this is the ancient Egyptian using Colonial names and legends for their language and faiths.
And then the most famous lost Colonial/Cylon/Human civilization of them all - Atlantis.
Yea, but, that would've only been about 5000-10,000 years ago, not 150,000.

You say that with such certainty because you know all about the history of Atlantis?

Post by **sindatur** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:11 pm

High Lord Tolkien wrote:
sindatur wrote:
High Lord Tolkien wrote: I disagree.
That's the beauty of this idea.
The Colonials/Cylons did establish advanced cultures that went on to influence the ancient cultures that we know about.
Clearest case for this is the ancient Egyptian using Colonial names and legends for their language and faiths.
And then the most famous lost Colonial/Cylon/Human civilization of them all - Atlantis.

Yea, but, that would've only been about 5000-10,000 years ago, not 150,000.

You say that with such certainty because you know all about the history of Atlantis?

Oops, I missed seeing the last line about Atlantis

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