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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:38 pm
by I'm Murrin
I can't say I'd noticed any more conflict on Imray lately than there has been on my own home grounds. But I wouldn't say my conflict is rapidly growing, either.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:49 pm
by Fist and Faith
Yeah, it's the "rapidly growing" that rules out you and Rothmog. And Tawhiri vs Sunset has been pretty intense for a couple turns now, too. But Imray, despite constant problems and even war, hasn't had anything happen that is as dire as the CH seems to indicate. Maybe that's changed. Maybe one of them decided to end it once and for all?

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:01 pm
by Menolly
Fist and Faith wrote:OK, I need lots of fixes today, since I was quiet for so long. ("Not long enough, Fist!" Yeah yeah...) So here's my guesses.
We're actually taking guesses and posting them?
Ooo...
Fist and Faith wrote:
Xar wrote:1) Someone thinks he/she has found a nice way to call the World Breaker back, and is doing just that!
Of course, one of you knows who this is, and can just speak up. Heh. But until then, my guess is the Void. Mainly because of the domain. Easy to summon the WB from the void when you are the Void/Oblivion.
I disagree.
TWB drove himself into the earth to once again crack the world. And I can't come up with any justification for The Void to want to do so.
Fist and Faith wrote:
Xar wrote:2) One of the continents is seeing a lot of chaos due to a rapidly growing conflict which is spiraling out of control.
Imray. The other conflicts are not growing rapidly, but something could have happened on Imray. Of course, there's Nyitha, but I wouldn't expect the word "chaos" to be the best word. Plus, I'm pretty sure #3 is me, and I don't want to be greedy with these. :D

:snip:

But Imray, despite constant problems and even war, hasn't had anything happen that is as dire as the CH seems to indicate. Maybe that's changed. Maybe one of them decided to end it once and for all?
cho's people are nowhere to be seen on Imray, except maybe for the occasional straggler attempting to make pilgrimage. uKulwa has always asked for cho's people to leave; otherwise he has no justification for attacking, much less having anyone there to attack. I doubt it's Imray. Unless it involves others than cho and uKulwa.

I'm going to guess The Shattered Lands, with the second destroyed moonbridge and Amplarx's withdrawal. No real reason; just a hunch.
Fist and Faith wrote:
Xar wrote:3) Someone's plans have turned out to have a hefty price attached, a price which was not considered when those plans were made ;)
Yup, this one's gotta be me. As I said, it's not that I hadn't considered there would be a hefty price, it's just that Zephyr is a bit beyond caring about such things these days.
Could be. I have two other guesses; both currently pulling equal weight. But I would rather not post those. Besides, you already know one of my guesses. ;)

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:04 am
by Dorian
Interesting guesses Fist. Find #1 surprising though. The Void has little enough interest in current gods let alone old ones. As a player I didnt even know who the world breaker was till yesterday :P

As much as I think you are right on #3 I must admit I'm a tad paranoid about it being me. But results will tell.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:04 am
by variol son
Of course Fist thinks number three is about him. We all probably think number three is about us. ;)

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:45 am
by Xar
I must say, though - you know how some of you said they'd like a brand-new world for P4? Well, if people keep doing the same kind of stuff which was done this turn, I don't think Eiran will last much longer ;)

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:29 am
by Fist and Faith
Dorian wrote:Interesting guesses Fist. Find #1 surprising though. The Void has little enough interest in current gods let alone old ones. As a player I didnt even know who the world breaker was till yesterday :P
Yeah, Void was my guess only because of the domain. I could easily imagine your results saying something like "Some of your followers were experimenting with new spells of Oblivion, and they felt a powerful presence." Or they found an artifact that was strong with Oblivion. Or something that Void would have been able to divine information on more easily than anyone else, and it turns out WB is behind the whole thing.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:44 am
by Dorian
My followers dont believe in magic :P

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:13 am
by Fist and Faith
But you get my point!!! :LOLS: hehe

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:08 pm
by Loredoctor
Regarding the world breaker, Nor Yekith was planning on helping him return to Eiran.

Regarding the last hint, I really believe that it refers to Nor Yekith. He's done something pretty major this turn.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:30 pm
by Fist and Faith
Doh! Hey, Nor Yekith's turning out to be nuthin' but trouble! That's quite a swan song, eh? :D

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:43 pm
by Arcadia
Yes, CH #2 could be Imray. *evil laugh*

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:02 pm
by Arcadia
Heh, sorry, double post.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:30 pm
by Dagon
So I've been thinking a lot about making the effort to hide the players in P4, and the more I think about it the more it makes sense. Here's why:

1. It would create a blank slate; no one would gain an advantage from their experience of how a certain player generally plays a deity.

2. Simplifies the politics of the game. Instead of the strange meta-politics that often occur between players, it would relegate the interaction to in-game and pm's between deities. Essentially it would eliminate the concern brought up in Dorian's posting, as any potential conflict would occur solely between deities and not players.

3. Reestablishes the mystery of the deities being role-played, and provides a more believable and compelling narrative overall.


Of course, every player would have to make a conscious effort not to reveal themselves to others - which could foreseeably become very difficult, especially when pride for an in-game action takes over and the urge to discuss it with other Watch friends becomes particularly strong. :D

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:35 pm
by Madadeva
The challenge will be changing our writing style and in-game interaction style to disguise who we are. Some of us (not me!) may be more skillful at this than others!!

But if we can do it ... would be interesting.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:41 pm
by Menolly
The AllFather wrote:I must say, though - you know how some of you said they'd like a brand-new world for P4? Well, if people keep doing the same kind of stuff which was done this turn, I don't think Eiran will last much longer ;)
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Dagon wrote:So I've been thinking a lot about making the effort to hide the players in P4, and the more I think about it the more it makes sense. Here's why:...
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Madadeva wrote:Ok.... I bet the appearance of this thread is giving Menolly fits of anxiety!! ;) :lol:
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*glare*

As far as anonymity goes, I hope to claim one of my current domains
again, so no matter what, I'm sure I'll be known. *shrug*

And I for one hope for an Eiran tie-in in some way. For the diety I have in mind, it is essential I think. But my preference is to remain on Eiran...

*sorry, breaking my own reason for glaring*

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:44 pm
by Dagon
Yeah that could be a challenge. I'm not too skilled at intuitively remembering writing patterns, but others might be able to.

I guess the bright side would be that it would force you to create a character with more depth, or at least one with speech more alien to how you normally speak.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:48 pm
by Fist and Faith
The thought of playing entirely IC is very exciting. The problem is that I need a WHOLE FREAKIN' LOT more activity than that would provide. Txting as much as I do with those who will respond is all that gets me from turn to turn. :lol:

And I'm sure many of us would figure out who many others are. But I really don't think that's a problem. If we ONLY communicated IC, we would only have that and known actions on which to base our decisions about how to deal with each other.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:54 pm
by I'm Murrin
I'm already unsure my roleplaying skill's good enough for my next character, but I do intend to keep fairly quiet about it.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:54 pm
by Menolly
People...
...please???

Pantheon - Discussions of the Future

So I don't have a frigging heart attack?
The Third Age is far from over...
...I hope.