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Loremaster wrote:As far as I can recall, it was never established that all of the Basestars were in orbit of the Singularity.

Zahir, it does matter. If it's accepted that the rebel cylons (Centurions) could 'live' on, any of Cavil's surviving Basestars would also contain centurions. Now the difference between them is that the rebels were altered, but the remaining Cavils may have been forced to improve their own to help their race survive - skinjobs or not.
I just re-watched the finale.....

I think there's an interesting story to tell about the rebel Centurions who left on the Basestar, but I can't see how there are any other surviving Cylons.
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I rewatched the finale recently. There were no basestars around the colony. Therefore, they survived and are out in space. Given that Cavil refused to allow the centurians to have freewill, it's very likely there would be skin jobs aboard those basestars.
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Loremaster wrote:I rewatched the finale recently. There were no basestars around the colony. Therefore, they survived and are out in space. Given that Cavil refused to allow the centurians to have freewill, it's very likely there would be skin jobs aboard those basestars.
Cavil refused but it was done anyway.
And skin jobs are only going to live as long as a human would.
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High Lord Tolkien wrote:
Loremaster wrote:I rewatched the finale recently. There were no basestars around the colony. Therefore, they survived and are out in space. Given that Cavil refused to allow the centurians to have freewill, it's very likely there would be skin jobs aboard those basestars.
Cavil refused but it was done anyway.
And skin jobs are only going to live as long as a human would.
I disagree, we have no reason to believe a Skin job will age or catch HUman diseases. The only thing that has changed is they can't resurrect, so Skin Jobs will live until they are killed, I believe. Look at the Final Five, they've been around for thousands of years, even without ressurection technology. So, they may catch a Cylon disease or be killed, but, I don't see anyr eason to believe they will die of old age, or am I forgetting something?
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High Lord Tolkien wrote:
Loremaster wrote:I rewatched the finale recently. There were no basestars around the colony. Therefore, they survived and are out in space. Given that Cavil refused to allow the centurians to have freewill, it's very likely there would be skin jobs aboard those basestars.
Cavil refused but it was done anyway.
And skin jobs are only going to live as long as a human would.
I disagree, we have no reason to believe a Skin job will age or catch HUman diseases. The only thing that has changed is they can't resurrect, so Skin Jobs will live until they are killed, I believe. Look at the Final Five, they've been around for thousands of years, even without ressurection technology. So, they may catch a Cylon disease or be killed, but, I don't see anyr eason to believe they will die of old age, or am I forgetting something?
Hmmm...
I don't think that works.
Adama knew Tigh when he was younger.
If they were immortal then why the fear when the Resurrection Ship was destroyed?
And if they were immortal then those alive when the population dispersed on Earth would be alive today (potentially).
I just assumed that the FF were resurrected just before being placed on Earth.
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High Lord Tolkien wrote:
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High Lord Tolkien wrote: Cavil refused but it was done anyway.
And skin jobs are only going to live as long as a human would.
I disagree, we have no reason to believe a Skin job will age or catch HUman diseases. The only thing that has changed is they can't resurrect, so Skin Jobs will live until they are killed, I believe. Look at the Final Five, they've been around for thousands of years, even without ressurection technology. So, they may catch a Cylon disease or be killed, but, I don't see anyr eason to believe they will die of old age, or am I forgetting something?
Hmmm...
I don't think that works.
Adama knew Tigh when he was younger.
If they were immortal then why the fear when the Resurrection Ship was destroyed?
And if they were immortal then those alive when the population dispersed on Earth would be alive today (potentially).
I just assumed that the FF were resurrected just before being placed on Earth.
Hmmmm...Food for thought...Forgot about Tigh being younger...
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Yeah, I think it's pretty well established that Cylons age and die.

By the way (if anyone cares), my re-watching of the finale confirmed what I said when it originally aired....It wrapped the series up perfectly. I'm totally satisfied with it.
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Cail wrote:Yeah, I think it's pretty well established that Cylons age and die.

By the way (if anyone cares), my re-watching of the finale confirmed what I said when it originally aired....It wrapped the series up perfectly. I'm totally satisfied with it.
I've always thought a second viewing would be more satisfying. The first time, even though I was fine with it, I did my own preconceived notions that made me ponder how good it was. I expect when I re-view it, it will be what it should ahve been the first time, without my preconceived notions (some of which were right BTW, which affected it just as much)
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Cail wrote:Yeah, I think it's pretty well established that Cylons age and die.
I'm not disputing your comment; I'm more curious. How is it established that they age and die? In fact, there's a possible serious plot hole. Recall that the final five were the same age when the nuclear war occured on Earth as they were in the BS fleet. Did Cavil place Saul first, then waited some years, Ellen second, a few more years the chief, and then the remaining two? Or is it that they were placed at the age they were before the war on Earth. That's more likely, given that the FF only arrived following the first Cylon war, which was occurring during Adama's earlier years.

There is also the question why the hell Cavil would allow himself to be reborn so old. We already know that he has altered himself - so it's likely that he could tinker with his genetic makeup and become younger when reborn. That doesn't happen. Cavil doesn't strike me as someone content to live a short life before resurrection - then again, he never struck me as someone content with being biological.

The only flaw in my argument is that it's possible he didn't understand resurrection technology.
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